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Scorpion Family

Started by Aircav, December 06, 2011, 11:47:20 PM

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Spotted this Scorpion based thing fitted with a 105mm gun and a Curtis-Wright RC1-350 engine, was the US Army looking at getting some I wonder.



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Interesting.
The biggest gun I have seen on a Scorpion to date is a 90mm Cockerill on the Venezuelan Army Scorpions.
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rickshaw

I think you'll find that is a Stormer, not a Scorpion.  Yes, it was proposed to the US Army at one point as a competitor for the M8 system, just as the Stormer APC was once proposed as an alternative to the LAV-25.  Basically a Scorpion has 5 road wheels while a Stormer has 6.
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Mossie

Your both right, it's a Scoprion/Scimitar superstucture adapted to fit a Stormer chassis.

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rickshaw

Having had a bit of a hunt around I suspect its actually a Stormer 90 - which mounted a 90mm gun (although the first post's picture appears to be missing its muzzle brake.

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Mossie

Turret differs as well, Steve's cutaway basically has a Scorpion turret with increased height.  Maybe an earlier design of the same concept?  :unsure:
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dy031101

Isn't the turret in the second pic the French TS-90?
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Quote from: dy031101 on December 07, 2011, 05:49:33 AM
Isn't the turret in the second pic the French TS-90?

Yes.  The webpage I found the image on said it was one of the standard French turrets which were available at the time.
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rickshaw

Quote from: Mossie on December 07, 2011, 05:38:17 AM
Turret differs as well, Steve's cutaway basically has a Scorpion turret with increased height.  Maybe an earlier design of the same concept?  :unsure:

I beg to differ.  The turret appears to be much longer, the front and mantlet a different shape to that on a standard Scorpion turret.
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dy031101

I believe the cutaway is presenting either a Stingray turret or a derivative of it.
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Looks rather different to the Stingray:

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apophenia

Quote from: Aircav on December 06, 2011, 11:47:20 PM
... Curtis-Wright RC1-350 ...

The use of a rotary engine is interesting -- even if the technical illustrator can't spell Curtiss-Wright  ;)

Does anyone know of other Wankel types proposed for armoured vehicles?

rickshaw

I'm pretty sure there have been several proposals.  I'm unaware of any though, that entered production...
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ChernayaAkula

Quote from: rickshaw on December 07, 2011, 03:55:04 PM
Looks rather different to the Stingray:



I think you'll find/you do realize (:rolleyes:) that "Stingray" is actually a Japanese Type 10 MBT.
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No he don't any more.  ;D

Thanks for pointing out the mistake.  Obviously now corrected...
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