Whiffed F1 and sports cars?

[PR19_Kit]

I had a wonderful book about all the Lotus F1 cars for my birthday, with full details and colour profiles of all of them included. Today in Autosport Magazine there's a feature on Sir Stirling Moss and how would have been driving a Ferrari, but run by Rob Walker's team in 1962 had he not had his near fatal crash at Goodwood in 1961. His Ferrari would have been painted in Walker's dark blue with a white nose stripe scheme and that got me thinking......

There's a whole slew of Whiffed F1 cars that could be built on that theme, real world cars but painted in non-real schemes. Going back to the Lotus book how about swapping the colour schemes of the 25 and the 72? Jim Clark's slim-line 25 would look amazing in the black and gold of the 72's original John Player Special scheme, and a 72 in green with a yellow stripe would be wonderful! I have a 1/43 kit of a 33, a 25B if you like, in The Loft too...... 

The possibilities are almost endless, a Mclaren MP4 'anything' in the original McLaren white with a green stripe, Senna's first GP Toleman in his later Lotus 'Camel' livery? It even works for sports cars, a Chapparal in ANY colour but white? I'd love to do a 2F in the Gulf orange and pale blue scheme. A Porsche 917 in British Racing Green, if that's not too sacriligous? Martin Brundle's Jaguar XJR8 in BRG too? That would look amazing! Going totally off the wall, the 1964 Rover-BRM turbine car in Brundle's Silk Cut scheme even? I have both those cars in 1/43 as well....... 

Anyone else have some thoughts on those ideas?

[The Wooksta!]

I've a Lindberg Triumph GT6 (the hardtop coupe version of the Spitfire) that's part built.  It'll end up in PRU Blue.  Do I win five pounds?

[Hobbes]

Interesting idea. Going from the current, noisy ads-everywhere paintjobs to the old-style national markings is sure to yield some striking paint schemes.

Mercedes came pretty close to that when they painted their group C cars silver and had only a few sponsors. Those cars looked good.

Maybe a current Lotus F1 car in BRG with yellow bands around the air intakes on either side of the cockpit...

[PR19_Kit]

Hehehe Lee, that's a neat one! You'd have to fit cameras to it though. 

LONG time since I've seen that kit! 

Harro, that's good too, current cars are just SO difficult to 'see', even the race numbers are almost lost in the melange of adverts. I'm tempted to ask 'Which Lotus?' mind you, as last year's Lotus is this year's Caterham and this year's Lotus is last year's Renault! 

[simmie]

May I suggest that you take a butchers at this link and let me know what you think

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/skins.cfm?ID=F%2EArmaroli

[PR19_Kit]

Yes, sort of what I had in mind, but not many of them are as radical as I was suggesting.

Presumably they're for a PC race game, are they? I have GP3 and another one, but never could get to drive them fast enough even to qualify without buying a wheel setup, well out of my price league. 

[simmie]

Ah, right, I think I get your drift now.

There was a website I used to visit, it may not exist any more thou!  I shall investigate and see if still have the address somewhere.


O.K having done the required digging about, I found these:

http://f1simlinks.rscsites.org/mods/f1c_mods/retro02.htm

&

http://f1simlinks.rscsites.org/mods/f1c_mods/f1legends.htm

Had another dig around on Rfactorcentral (its an on-line simulation type thingee, I'm not totally sure.  Its got loads of lovely piccies thou!!!)
for sportscar stuff.  I think these are the closest to your requirements.

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/skins.cfm?ID=Aston%20Martin%20Lola%20DBR1-2

&

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/skins.cfm?ID=Epsilon%20Euskadi

&

http://www.rfactorcentral.com/skins.cfm?ID=Porsche%20Fabcar%20Challenge

[RotorheadTX]

Ever heard of the 'GPX Cyber Formula' cars?? 

[PR19_Kit]

Ever heard of the 'GPX Cyber Formula' cars?? 

No, tell me more please.

[The Wooksta!]

When and if I ever build the Aston Martin DP214, it'll be a road car rather than a racer, a 60s DBS/DBR version of the Aston Martin DB4.

The Lindberg kit is basic, very basic, but it looks like what it's meant to be.  I may get an Airfix 32nd scale DB5 to contribute some bits, mainly the interior and the engine.

[RotorheadTX]

Ever heard of the 'GPX Cyber Formula' cars?? 

No, tell me more please.

Japanese anime series - most of the cars are Tyrrell-style 6-wheelers - crap cartoon, but the cars are eye-poppers:

http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig01/10011302a.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4771137742_94dee5b019.jpg

[Mossie]

Ever heard of the 'GPX Cyber Formula' cars?? 

No, tell me more please.

Japanese anime series - most of the cars are Tyrrell-style 6-wheelers - crap cartoon, but the cars are eye-poppers:

http://www.1999.co.jp/itbig01/10011302a.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4119/4771137742_94dee5b019.jpg

Aoshima do some 1/24 models of the cars too, I knew nothing about them until I saw one at the Elvington model show summer before last.  It really stood out to me & I nearly bought it, but I thought it would just end up being eternal loft insulation.  Not easy to get in the UK though.
http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/list/715/0/1

[Mossie]

Wipeout has some possibilities.  I used to play Wipeout 3 on my old Playstation, it's a driving game based around zero G craft in the near future, the general idea is to use driving skill & various weapons to beat the rest.  The liveries are kind of line with current thinking & wouldn't look out of place on a modern car, but I wondered about designing some simpler 'retro' schemes to go on 60's/70's era racing cars, F1 & others.

Here's some of the craft & teams.
http://www.1337squad.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/wipeout_hd_teams_collage_by_feisar_csy-d325eo8.jpg

[Weaver]

The Anime ones kind of stole my thunder, but still....

I was wondering about physical whiffs, i.e. using bits from different car kits to create credible but non-existent models. The F1 cars all look so similar now anyway that I bet you could fool any number of people. you could do it on two levels:

1. Very Credible, i.e. a Ferrari in Ferrari colours that has subtly different wings, body-shape etc..

2. Alternate Universe: Ferrari (or any other maker) with Tyrell-style 6-wheels, or all of them with MUCH bigger wings because the rules are different, etc....

[PR19_Kit]

That's more what I was thinking of too Weaver.

If you built a present day Ferrari and painted it like a Renault, say, would anyone notice? The only one with any real shape differences in the 2011 season was the McLaren with its 'L' shaped side pods.

To my mind the FAI made a HUGE mistake when they narrowed the cars down for the 1997 season, from then on they've all looked pinched and too narrow to stay on the track. OK, I KNOW they have enough downforce to run the races if the tracks were upside down but they don't look like my idea of a Grand Prix car any more. A modern F1 car with a wide track and painted in an older colour scheme would be a great Whiff.

Sports cars offer more choices as they invariably raced in various schemes anyway. You could paint a Porsche 956/962 in almost any scheme you imagined and then you'd find someone had done it for real after all!  

I've got my Lotus 33 kit out of The Loft and I'm seeing if the Lotus 72 John Player Special decals would fit.....