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Super Blackhawk

Started by kerick, March 04, 2012, 11:14:03 AM

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kerick

Well I've managed to start another project before finishing the one I was on.  This is a compound helicopter consisting of a Blackhawk, a Seahawk, an A-10 and engines from an S-3 Viking.  It was first inspired by Sikorski/NASA S-72. 

http://www.dfrc.nasa.gov/gallery/photo/X-Wing/Medium/EC86-33555-2.jpg
Other references
http://www.defensereview.com/piasecki-x-49a-speeedhawk-compound-helicopter-250-mph-black-hawk/
http://www.piasecki.com/x49a.php#
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sikorsky_S-72
http://www.usarmy.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/5-31.jpg
http://www.eurocopter.com/site/en/ref/Photos_1100.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamov_Ka-50
So far I've cut the two fuselages to make one machine with a cabin not quite twice as big as a regular Blackhawk.  I am torn between using F-14 tapered wings or trimmed down A-10 wings. 
http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/kerick214/Super%20Blackhawk/100_1101.jpg
http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/kerick214/Super%20Blackhawk/100_1100.jpg
The TF-34s would attach to the fuselage above the cabin and just below the engines.
http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/kerick214/Super%20Blackhawk/100_1105.jpg
All four of the Blackhawk engines would stay in place with a new rotor hub placement.  I can't decide if I should go with a five or six blade rotor or a coaxial rotor system like the Ka-50.  Landing gear, weapons decals and tail fins should finish it off.  I just hope I don't get bogged down by the interior.  With the cabin doors open I have to fill all that space with something.  The cabin seats from the Fujimi Blackhawk look like they belong on a bus so I will have to make something better looking.  Spring break from school so I might get some time in on it.  Wish me luck.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

pyro-manic

#1
A-10 wings do it for me. This should be interesting. :thumbsup:
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tc2324

 :thumbsup:

Love the idea, looking forward to the next picture update.
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kerick

Quote from: pyro-manic on March 04, 2012, 12:47:30 PM
A-10 wings do if for me. This should be interesting. :thumbsup:
I'm leaning towards the A-10 wings with a six blade rotor myself.  just interested to see what others my think.  I'm thinking of a time period of post 2040 and pre Avatar.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

jsport

Good going, best of luck and learning :thumbsup:

jsport

The extended sensor nose turret of Avatar VTOLs would be nice but maybe difficult to find.

kerick

Some sort of sensor turret or FLIR type device is a must.  Lots of greeblies to sort through for that.  I have to remake two seats for the side gunners/flight engineers stations and probably seats for troop commander etc.  I'm thinking of brass or plastic rod with perhaps aluminum foil seat cloth.  Seats other than the pilots are a tube frame with nylon cloth seat and back.  I'm going to cut the bottom of an S-3 off and use it for a new fuselage underside.  This is the half built kit that gave up the engines so no loss there.  This way I can use the nose gear from the S-3 and probably the main gear from the A-10.  Nothing much to take a pic of yet, hope that changes soon.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

jsport

The landing gear will look very cool. The detailed troop compartment is likewise a nice touch. Gunners seats for a creature projected to be that fast will make it interesting. Yea, the Avatar extended sensor might not look as good as conformal sensor. A circa 2040 suite might be more comphrehensive foward looking IR.

jsport

Also important will be your choice of circa 2040 camouflage mixing of medium altitude/speed camouflage as well as low/speed altitude troop infiltraton.

kerick

Well, the remodel project is the one bogged down right now so that means I had a chance to work on my project. I've attacked the cabin problem by thoughly searching the parts boxes and finding one seat from a German WWII bomber that made a good TC seat. Even had a harness.

http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/kerick214/Super%20Blackhawk/004.jpg
The pilots received a major seat upgrade and the pilots seats became gunners seats.
http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/kerick214/Super%20Blackhawk/003.jpg
http://i624.photobucket.com/albums/tt322/kerick214/Super%20Blackhawk/005.jpg
Added some old computer wiring connecters for "black boxes" behind the pilots seats. After I took the pics I added some armor to the pilot seats.
Not too bad for an evenings work. I need lots of seats for the bulk of the cabin. This will require some experimentation unless someone knows how to make multiple troop seats. 
I could paint a mixed camo and two tone gray and say its a changable camo in the middle of changing.  Then I would have to call it the Chameleon.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

jsport


Seats and boxes look good. Hope others can assist on the seat issue. Chameleon sounds right but others may want a vote. The Diamondback fellow working on the futuristic Pave Low has the same dilema. Maybe you all could discuss.

Diamondback

#12
Could... my "chameleon" project I was just going to select one scary-as-Hell scheme (maybe overall the darkest black I can find and a giant sharkmouth) and say both pilot and onboard Artificial Intelligence "copilot" were in a "may whatever gods you believe in have mercy on your soul, for we will have NONE..." mood. (The ideal for an AdCam bird would be to just have a huge transparent vacform, but the problem is it's not exactly something that CAN be modeled because you're gonna have problems with the interior unless you figure out a way to fit the cams and displays on the windows so they look opaque outside while still having visibility inside...)

Interestingly, we're both planning 4-engine Compounds, but mine's a Super Stallion with a Pave Low nose and an added #4 engine mirroring the third. Too bad we can't get detailed breakdowns of specific component weights and compare power/weights... (I'm thinking GE38-1B's uprated to 7500shp each, and with wings detached enough power gain and weight savings to slingload and midair-launch a fully fueled and armed Super Tomcat.) Then again, yours will have about 30 years of tech advantage other than the AI, since mine is a mid-2000s "Research & Development" ship; perhaps we should compare notes about add-ons and maybe we might inspire each other.

ChernayaAkula

#13
Cool project!  :thumbsup: A-10 wings do look the part!
Tricycle landing gear would be cool. On the other hand, a taildragger set-up like the S-72's wouldn't look out of place either.
If you go for a co-axial rotor à la Ka-50, you can drop the tail rotor and maybe use sized-down (a few strategic cuts) A-10 tailplanes in its place.

Seeing that you use Photobucket, why not post the [IMG] tags they offer? These display the pics right away, not just clickable links.  :thumbsup:
Cheers,
Moritz


Must, then, my projects bend to the iron yoke of a mechanical system? Is my soaring spirit to be chained down to the snail's pace of matter?

jsport

 coaxial rotor (way of the future) good, if not, maybe a stopable x-wing ie s-72 or stopable canard rotor wing (crw) but x-49 piaseki Vectored Thrust Duct Prop (VTDP) as you mention seems best for the tail.