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Rotodyne and Convertiplane Themed Build

Started by Mossie, June 13, 2012, 08:15:45 AM

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PR19_Kit

You can never have too many 'dynes in stock........  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

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Kit

coolpop6307

"I am a tangerine, and no one can see me"
"Your despicable!!"
"EHHHH Whats up doc?"

kitnut617

Simon, does the project have to be a 'Rotodyne' rotodyne, or something that works like a 'Rotodyne'

And I like the 'Unlimited' time allowance (considering my recent record when joining a GB ---  :-\ )
If I'm not building models, I'm out riding my dirtbike

Mossie

I've been on holiday the last week so glad to see there's still some interest.

Quote from: NARSES2 on June 15, 2012, 08:29:57 AM
If there's enough of you commited to this I'll set the board up with Mossie as mod'  Remember that there dosn't need to be a time limit unless you really want one

Great, cheers for that Chris. :thumbsup:  How many do we need to commit?

Quote from: coolpop6307 on June 19, 2012, 07:32:06 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on June 19, 2012, 07:18:15 AM
You can never have too many 'dynes in stock........  ;D

Aint that the truth


Never a truer word spoken, I've got two Airfix, one Revell and I would like to add at least one of each.  I rue not picking up a second Revell kit when they were on offer at Modelzone a few months back.

Quote from: kitnut617 on June 19, 2012, 10:33:33 AM

Simon, does the project have to be a 'Rotodyne' rotodyne, or something that works like a 'Rotodyne'

And I like the 'Unlimited' time allowance (considering my recent record when joining a GB ---  :-\ )

Robert, it doesn't have to be a 'Rotodyne'.  I'm willing to allow any type of convertiplane (including tilt-rotors), although you get extra brownie points if it's tip driven. Methods of tp dive can be different too, early helicopters such as the Brennan helicopter and helicogyre used propellers at the rotors tips.

The idea is to assume that the gyrodyne concept was successful and the Rotodyne entered service.  So what would the Rotodyne have looked like in service, what would competitors have come up with, either as direct rivals or new concepts?  Also, what would be entering service now and to twist the timeline a bit more, what might have proceeded it to inspire the concept and make it more likely to succeed?
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Mossie

The Groen Brothers website is worth looking at, they have attempted to resurrect the Gyrodyne concept.  So far I haven't seen anything of it, it seems the DARPA funding promised has not materialised.  They've proposed a prototype based on the Adam A700 and conversions of existing aircraft that are very kitbashable.

Groen Brothers Gyrodyne page: http://www.groenbros.com/gyrodyne_tech.php
Overview from our own Stargazer: http://stargazer2006.online.fr/aircraft/heliplane.htm
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

coolpop6307

"I am a tangerine, and no one can see me"
"Your despicable!!"
"EHHHH Whats up doc?"

kitnut617

Quote from: Mossie on June 24, 2012, 03:11:54 PM
Robert, it doesn't have to be a 'Rotodyne'.  I'm willing to allow any type of convertiplane (including tilt-rotors), although you get extra brownie points if it's tip driven. Methods of tp dive can be different too, early helicopters such as the Brennan helicopter and helicogyre used propellers at the rotors tips.

The idea is to assume that the gyrodyne concept was successful and the Rotodyne entered service.  So what would the Rotodyne have looked like in service, what would competitors have come up with, either as direct rivals or new concepts?  Also, what would be entering service now and to twist the timeline a bit more, what might have proceeded it to inspire the concept and make it more likely to succeed?

I've got an idea which is something close to one of those Groen projects, I've got to see if I can make some rotors for it first though, because my plan is to use some 1/35 Chinook rotor blades.  I've already tried to get some spares from Trumpeter but nothing came from the request so I might try to drop one in rubber and see how it comes out.
If I'm not building models, I'm out riding my dirtbike

Mossie

Could you shape some from plastic strip?  I had an aborted attempt at the HS Helicrane and managed to make a blade from laminated plastic strip, shaped on a household orbital sander held upside down.  The intention was to make a single master, then cast the rest so they'd all end up the same shape, but I never got around to it.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

NARSES2

Mossie. Let me know what you want to call the GB, what you are prepared to include in the GB (types of aircraft etc) and time period if you want one, but I think you should leave it open ended as these things have a natural lifespan anyway, and I'll set her up for you, with you as Mod

Chris
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

kitnut617

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Quote from: Mossie on June 25, 2012, 07:18:39 AM
Could you shape some from plastic strip?  I had an aborted attempt at the HS Helicrane and managed to make a blade from laminated plastic strip, shaped on a household orbital sander held upside down.  The intention was to make a single master, then cast the rest so they'd all end up the same shape, but I never got around to it.

Well I've already got a 1/35 Chinook to use, I've got another project (Quad Tilt Rotor) that I want to use the sponsons from it too, but it looks like I'll have to do those myself as well --- and as I don't really want to have a bunch of 1/35 helicopter parts left over, I'll build the Chinook too (unless I can off-load it after I've made my moulds).
If I'm not building models, I'm out riding my dirtbike

Mossie

Quote from: NARSES2 on June 25, 2012, 07:26:14 AM
Mossie. Let me know what you want to call the GB, what you are prepared to include in the GB (types of aircraft etc) and time period if you want one, but I think you should leave it open ended as these things have a natural lifespan anyway, and I'll set her up for you, with you as Mod

Chris

Cheers Chris, PM on the way.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Mossie

I've renamed it the Rotodyne and Convertiplane Themed build so as to better describe what's included.  Out of the box, there are the Rotodyne kits and Italeri V-22's in both 1/72 and 1/48.  A Model I think do some if you want something a little challenging, Sharkit and Anigrand both do resin kits of several subjects.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

kitnut617

So I could do both my projects for this TB ---- ?
If I'm not building models, I'm out riding my dirtbike

Tomintoul Wildcat

You can count me in!! I have a pair of Rotodyne kits in my stash. I had in mind  a military transport version and, an armed assault transport  - sort of a SUPER Hind type!

Mossie

Nice one guys, looks like we're getting a fair following! :thumbsup:
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.