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PR19_Kit

#30
July 01, 2012, 08:58:16 AM
Quote from: Steel Penguin on July 01, 2012, 01:48:13 AM
unobtainium alloy  mainspars.
not certain but the acme divison of Spackman industrys may be able to point you in the right direction.  They were the main UK supplyers / users.   Working with them in the past was always a plesure in my experiance  :thumbsup:

Yes, well, I knew this might come up.........  :-\

The problem is that unobtanium ore is currently very difficult to mine as the primary ore source  moves around inside the earth's mantle at a VERY deep level. Our main mines used to be in Siberia, and we've tracked the mine-head along the Trans-Siberian Railway for many years as the mantle moved, but currently the source drift has moved north and is headed toward Novaya Zemlya and this not only has a high military presence but is also a tad radio-active too! The Russin Ministry of the Interior are saying that our mining licence doesn't extend outside mainland Russia and won't let us move the mine head to the island.

We could be in for a long wait.............
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Steel Penguin

#31
July 01, 2012, 09:03:32 AM
 :o  i see Kit, this is indeed problomatic.  would we be able to use the old workings to re-work previously uneconomic deposits?  or would we need to do some serious geo-engineering to change the direction to a more useful one ( undertaking the dreaded and delicate operation Twiglet)
the things you learn, give your mind the wings to fly, and the chains to hold yourself steady
take off and nuke the site form orbit, nope, time for the real thing, CAM and gridfire, call special circumstances. 
wow, its like freefalling into the Geofront
Not a member of the Hufflepuff conspiracy!

Rheged

#32
July 01, 2012, 09:05:55 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 01, 2012, 08:58:16 AM
Quote from: Steel Penguin on July 01, 2012, 01:48:13 AM
unobtainium alloy  mainspars.
not certain but the acme divison of Spackman industrys may be able to point you in the right direction.  They were the main UK supplyers / users.   Working with them in the past was always a plesure in my experiance  :thumbsup:

Yes, well, I knew this might come up.........  :-\

The problem is that unobtanium ore is currently very difficult to mine as the primary ore source  moves around inside the earth's mantle at a VERY deep level. Our main mines used to be in Siberia, and we've tracked the mine-head along the Trans-Siberian Railway for many years as the mantle moved, but currently the source drift has moved north and is headed toward Novaya Zemlya and this not only has a high military presence but is also a tad radio-active too! The Russin Ministry of the Interior are saying that our mining licence doesn't extend outside mainland Russia and won't let us move the mine head to the island.

We could be in for a long wait.............

So, in brief, don't buy any unobtainium ingots if they glow in the dark!! Thank you for this very useful addition to my geological  information. I suppose that in the fullness of time  Spackman Canada might start mining in the Baffin Island area.
"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
It  means that you read  the instruction sheet

PR19_Kit

#33
July 01, 2012, 09:07:55 AM
Quote from: Rheged on July 01, 2012, 09:05:55 AM
I suppose that in the fullness of time  Spackman Canada might start mining in the Baffin Island area.

Just hang in there a while...........  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

tonyg

#34
July 03, 2012, 11:43:01 AM
Quote from: Old Wombat on June 30, 2012, 11:20:56 AM
Just out of curiosity; is this either "tonyG" or "tonyG2" from Starship Modeler? :-\

:cheers:

Guy


PS: Welcome to the (other) Nuthouse! ;D

No, strictly aircraft! No what ifs on the stocks at present. Did an F-107 2-seat Wild Weasel a while back, which was in SAMI.

Cheers

Tony

NARSES2

#35
July 04, 2012, 07:33:58 AM
Quote from: tonyg on July 03, 2012, 11:43:01 AM

No, strictly aircraft! No what ifs on the stocks at present. Did an F-107 2-seat Wild Weasel a while back, which was in SAMI.

Cheers

Tony

remember that one - it was nice  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Gondor

#36
July 15, 2012, 01:05:01 AM
Only managed to get my copy of the magazine yesterday, some interesting work especially the P1121 conversion. Might try something similar at some point myself.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

#37
July 15, 2012, 03:34:19 AM
Quote from: Steel Penguin on July 01, 2012, 09:03:32 AM
:o  i see Kit, this is indeed problomatic.  would we be able to use the old workings to re-work previously uneconomic deposits?  or would we need to do some serious geo-engineering to change the direction to a more useful one ( undertaking the dreaded and delicate operation Twiglet)

Sadly no.

Unlike normal mines, where the old workings are still in same place relative to the surface, the unobtanium ore scource has long gone, carried by the moving mantle. You could open up the old mines but there'd be nothing at the bottom of a VERY deep hole!
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Weaver

#38
July 15, 2012, 08:09:25 AM
Re "counterfactual", my understanding is that the term was first coined amongst genuine real-world historians who had come to appreciate the value of the "what if" scenario in understanding the effects of choice and chance upon real historical events. They needed a clear label for such exercises, to avoid accusations of disinformation from the less tolerant, and "counterfactual" was the suitably academic term they chose.

I have an extremely good book of counterfactuals, written by real military historians who are anything but "wannabes", which is essentially an expansion of a series of articles commissioned by a respectable military history journal. It's called "What If?" by the way.... <_<

Given this, I appreciate the existance of the term. In effect, it's the professionals, who you might expect to be the most intolerant of what ifs, acknowledging that they have value and legitimacy.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

RussC

#39
July 15, 2012, 01:42:28 PM
While not a linguist, the term "counterfactual" sounds misplaced, sounding and meaning too much like the word contradiction, which is really just a mirror image or invert. The term "extrafactual" would make more sense to me.
"Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to"  - Al Superczynski

Martin H

#40
July 15, 2012, 01:52:39 PM
Quote from: Weaver on July 15, 2012, 08:09:25 AM
I have an extremely good book of counterfactuals, written by real military historians who are anything but "wannabes", which is essentially an expansion of a series of articles commissioned by a respectable military history journal. It's called "What If?" by the way.

I have that book and both its follow ons.
I always hope for the best.
Unfortunately,
experience has taught me to expect the worst.

Size (of the stash) matters.

IPMS (UK) What if? SIG Leader.
IPMS (UK) Project Cancelled SIG Member.

NARSES2

#41
July 16, 2012, 07:19:15 AM
Quote from: Martin H on July 15, 2012, 01:52:39 PM
Quote from: Weaver on July 15, 2012, 08:09:25 AM
I have an extremely good book of counterfactuals, written by real military historians who are anything but "wannabes", which is essentially an expansion of a series of articles commissioned by a respectable military history journal. It's called "What If?" by the way.

I have that book and both its follow ons.

Me to, all very good reads if a little hard going in parts
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

lancer

#42
July 17, 2012, 11:41:09 AM
I've looked in the current issues of all the modelling mags and I can't find these dammed articles anywhere.... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
If you love, love without reservation; If you fight, fight without fear - THAT is the way of the warrior

If you go into battle knowing you will die, then you will live. If you go into battle hoping to live, then you will die

Gondor

#43
July 17, 2012, 02:07:41 PM
"Model Aircraft" is indeed the title of the magazine. Its the one with the Corsair on the front and the articles start from page24 and finish on page 32. Hope this helps Lancer

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

NARSES2

#44
July 18, 2012, 02:45:57 AM
Quote from: lancer on July 17, 2012, 11:41:09 AM
I've looked in the current issues of all the modelling mags and I can't find these dammed articles anywhere.... :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Lance it should still be on the shelves, although I got my August SAM yesterday (very good and a lot in it). As Alistair says it's Model Aircraft, Vol 11, issue 7, July 2012. Corsair on cover and the article is entitled I coulda been a contender, starts page 24. As I said excellent read and piccies  :thumbsup:

If you still can't find it I'll bring mine to Yate so you can read
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.
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