A&AEE Grey and Red

Started by Knightflyer, June 28, 2012, 03:49:13 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

Knightflyer

Well the model is approaching completion

The stupid erk hasn't done too much damage, but he's just noticed that parts of the red banding needs to be removed / covered so it doesn't show through the roundel decals  :banghead:

The model is the basic 60's (50's ?!) one and I've done nothing to upgrade it as there is a new version on the streets and this project was to just 'use up' the old model airframe.

Whilst browsing the internet I've found that some-one has already done this aircraft in ETPS colours, fortunately in the later 'raspberry ripple' colour, but isn't it amazingly annoying how many of your 'original' ideas have already been done before though, maybe I should have gone for the red and yellow drone idea!
Oh to be whiffing again :-(

Nick

The book you want to read on the raspberry ripple schemes is Testing Colours, I forget the author's name.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Nick on July 06, 2012, 08:21:10 AM
The book you want to read on the raspberry ripple schemes is Testing Colours, I forget the author's name.

THAT'S the one! Why couldn't I remember soemthing as simple as that?  :banghead:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Knightflyer

Quote from: Nick on July 06, 2012, 08:21:10 AM
The book you want to read on the raspberry ripple schemes is Testing Colours, I forget the author's name.

it's by Adrian M.Balch, just found it on Amazon, thanks Nick (and Kit!)
Oh to be whiffing again :-(

NARSES2

Quote from: Knightflyer on July 06, 2012, 04:03:52 AM
isn't it amazingly annoying how many of your 'original' ideas have already been done before though, maybe I should have gone for the red and yellow drone idea!

Yup but then the world is always big enough for mutiple examples, and anyway every one is in some way still an individual  :thumbsup:

It's the same with techniques. Some of us older ones remember things that we did seemingly eon's ago (like the banana oil and plastecine trick or the sprue in old glue bottles trick) that have lain dormant for years. Then you'll read in a magazine that some young whippersnapper has invented this brand new method of doing things  :rolleyes: ;D
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Aircav

I found a nice photo of a ETPS helicopter in mid blue and sky colours while at the Army Air Corps Museum a couple of years ago, one for next years build.  ;) :thumbsup:
"Subvert and convert" By Me  :-)

"Sophistication means complication, then escallation, cancellation and finally ruination."
Sir Sydney Camm

"Men do not stop playing because they grow old, they grow old because they stop playing" - Oliver Wendell Holmes

Vertical Airscrew SIG Leader

Mossie

I'm a tad late to this, but I'll add a little to what Kit mentioned.  Prior to the late sixties, paint schemes in the Establishments were very individual.  They tended to be civil-ish schemes with A&AEE using some schemes with demarcations that were suited to calibration or weapons testing.  Basically anything goes for this period and you could easily invent your own scheme.  Sometime around the late sixties, a standard scheme was introduced that pre-dated Raspberry Ripple.  It comprised of white uppers and grey lowers, with blue cheatline for the RAE, red for A&AEE.  This doesn't seem to have been universally adopted and could mostly be seen on larger aircraft, although some smaller aircraft such as the RAE's Meteor T.'s recieved it.  RR was introduced in 1975 but it was well into the eighties before the whole fleet got it.  Like kit says it wasn't 100% standardised, at least early on, there were many minor variations on the theme.  By the late eigthies RR was starting to be standardised, even then the odd variation still crept in.  The book mnetioned earlier is well worth getting if you're doing any more, I got mine from Amazon for a reasonable price.

Looking forward to seeing whatever you've got planned! :thumbsup:
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Knightflyer

Well my model is now complete, and finished in the (maybe not so standard) grey and red scheme worn by the Hunters that I started this thread with.

Not all I've got to do is remember how to get photo(s) from my computer and on to here!  :blink:


I think I've definitely got to get my hands on a copy of testing colours though, if only for some variation to standard RAF camo and markings
Oh to be whiffing again :-(

NARSES2

Quote from: Knightflyer on July 09, 2012, 10:41:58 AM
Not all I've got to do is remember how to get photo(s) from my computer and on to here!  :blink:



There's s guide on the General Modelling subjects board.
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

PR19_Kit

At long last I've found my copy of 'Testing Colours', or to be 100% correct Mrs. PR19 found it without knowing what it was. Her comment when it appeared from underneath a large pile of boxes was something like 'Oooh, that's a pretty colour scheme, have you done any models like that?'  ;D

After spending half an hour going through it this evening I come to the conclusion that there never was a 'standard' Raspberry Ripple scheme. Sure, there was a scheme which involved a white top, a dark blue underside and a red stripe, but the proportions of the various parts varied hugely, the red stripe varying in width from 6" or so to about 4' on some aircraft!

I guess the world's your Raspberry oyster, you can paint the scheme any way you like and if it's on a Whiff model who's going to be able to argue with you?
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Nick

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 28, 2012, 02:57:03 PM
I guess the world's your Raspberry oyster, you can paint the scheme any way you like and if it's on a Whiff model who's going to be able to argue with you?

That was pretty much my conclusion when I was researching something many years back.... I recall driving to a library in the rough part of Basildon  :rolleyes: just to get it out.