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Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2; VI/JG.7, Deutsche Luftwaffe, Teltow, Summer 1946

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Dizzyfugu

A new day, and a new whif from the archive. Since it popped up accidently in another board, I keep up the pseudo Luft '46 series with the (very recent)... Messerschmitt Me 709!


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2; ,,<  – yellow", VI/JG.7, Deutsche Luftwaffe. Personal mount of Gruppenadjutant Ferdinand Walgenbach, Teltow, Summer 1946 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr


Some background
The Messerschmitt Me 709 was a derivate of the unsuccessful German World War II Me 309 fighter project and its short-lived Zwilling descendant, the Me 609 which joined two fuselages of the Me 309 fighter prototype together to form a heavy fighter. The Me 609 project was initiated in response to a 1941 Reich Air Ministry requirement for a new Zerstörer (heavy fighter) to replace the Bf 110 in a minimum time and with minimum new parts.


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2; ,,<+ – yellow", VI/JG.7, Deutsche Luftwaffe. Personal mount of Gruppenadjutant Ferdinand Walgenbach, Teltow, Summer 1946 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

In the Me 609 development phase, Messerschmitt had actually contemplated numerous twin-boom adaptations of its Bf 109 line including the Bf 109Z (which joined two Bf 109s) and the Me 409 (which used two Me 209-II aircraft). When it became clear that the Me 609 would not be cleared for service due to the progress in jet fighter development, the program was shelved - but quickly revived in 1943 when the high hopes in the jet engines were disappointed.


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2; ,,<+ – yellow", VI/JG.7, Deutsche Luftwaffe. Personal mount of Gruppenadjutant Ferdinand Walgenbach, Teltow, Summer 1946 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

When it became clear that no jet fighter with a true dogfight capability would be in service on short notice, the RLM called for a high speed interceptor against high flying USAF bombers and their long range fighter escorts. The fast De Havilland Mosquito was another threat which was hard to counter with the existing types in service. A top speed of more than 750 km/h was requested, as well as a high rate of climb and a high agility for close combat. The fighter should also be easy to build and use many proven components in order to get it into service as quickly as possible.


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2; ,,<+ – yellow", VI/JG.7, Deutsche Luftwaffe. Personal mount of Gruppenadjutant Ferdinand Walgenbach, Teltow, Summer 1946 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Messerschmitt's resulting Me 709 was basically a redesigned Me 309/609, since it was clear that only a twin-engined aircraft could meet the RLM requirements. Instead of two joined Me 309 fuselages with a new center wing section into which the two inboard wheels of the landing gear would retract, the Me 709 used a pull/push layout, very similar to the Fokker D-XXIII fighter. Main reason for this decision was the attempt to minimize drag and keep overall dimensions as compact as possible, offering only a small target. Easy single engine handling and high roll rate due to the weight masses centered along the longitudinal axis were another benefit of the concept. Additionally, the impressive results of the Dornier Do 335 development had additional influence. From this project, the Me 709's ejection seat (using pressurized air) and a mechanism to blow off the tail propeller fins in a case of emergency were incorporated.


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2; ,,<+ – yellow", VI/JG.7, Deutsche Luftwaffe. Personal mount of Gruppenadjutant Ferdinand Walgenbach, Teltow, Summer 1946 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

The Me 709 kept the Me 309's tricycle undercarriage, even though the main wheels now retracted inwards into the center wing sections. The slender tail booms contained two separate radiator baths, the gun armament above them and fuel tanks. Additional tanks were located in the inner wing sections, before and aft the landing gear wells, as well as under the cockpit, where the Me 309 originally had its retractable radiator mounted. The tail booms were connected by a single horizontal stabilizer, taken straight from the Me 609. The second engine behind the pressurized cockpit (also taken from the Me 309) caused a considerable CG shift aft, so that the Me 309's original wing main spar had to be moved backwards by almost 4' – but since the original radiator had been deleted, this caused no big problem and actually improved the field of view for the pilot.


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2; ,,<+ – yellow", VI/JG.7, Deutsche Luftwaffe. Personal mount of Gruppenadjutant Ferdinand Walgenbach, Teltow, Summer 1946 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Initially, two fighter versions of the Me 709 were planned, both single seaters and differing mainly in the outer wing sections. The 'A' series would be a highly agile fighter for medium to low heights, with a secondary use as fighter bomber for close air support. Armament was projected with four lightweight 30 mm MK 108 cannons, but since these highly effective guns were reserved for other projects like the Me 262, two of the guns were substituted with the heavier (but also more powerful) MK 103 cannons, or all four guns would be replaced by 20mm MG 151/20 cannons. The 'B' series would have a longer wing span ( 3,6m/11 ft 9½ in) and reduced/lighter armament (only two MG 151/20), optimized for high altitude interceptions and reconnaissance.


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2; ,,<+ – yellow", VI/JG.7, Deutsche Luftwaffe. Personal mount of Gruppenadjutant Ferdinand Walgenbach, Teltow, Summer 1946 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) - Detail by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

An additional projected version, the Me 709 'C', would be outfitted as a fast bomber, with a semi-recessed 1.000kg bomb under the fuselage, provisions for additional lighter bombs under the tail booms, paired with the reduced gun armament and the longer wing span from the B version, but with additional fuel in integral tanks in the outer wing sections.

Two prototypes of the A and B version each were quickly assembled from existing Me 309 airframes, first flight tests took place in October 1944. Initially, the Me 709s were equipped with the Daimler-Benz DB 603G engine, but later use of the Jumo 213 engine with 2.000 hp and more was envisaged, pushing the top speed beyond 500mph/800km/h .


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2; ,,<+ – yellow", VI/JG.7, Deutsche Luftwaffe. Personal mount of Gruppenadjutant Ferdinand Walgenbach, Teltow, Summer 1946 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) - Detail by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Flight tests were successful, even though the A fighter lacked directional stability and the high altitude B fighter would offer no real advantage compared to the simpler, single-engined Focke Wulf Ta 152. In January 1945, the RLM decided consequently to drop the B version, but the Me 709 A was to be developed further. Five additional pre-production airframes (A-0 series) were ordered and delivered until April 1945. These new machines featured, among other detail improvements, a recognizable dihedral to the outer wing sections, which also carried drooped wing tips. This proved to be a successful measure to improve stability, but the Me 709 A remained a rather nervous plane that constantly called for an attentive pilot. In this guise, the Me 709 A-1 was cleared and ordered for production. Delivery of the first serial machines took place in June 1945, and they were mainly used for home defense.


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2; ,,<+ – yellow", VI/JG.7, Deutsche Luftwaffe. Personal mount of Gruppenadjutant Ferdinand Walgenbach, Teltow, Summer 1946 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Several equipment packages ('Rüstsätze') were quickly developed and added to field machines. They would allow the carriage of various external loads, e .g. an ETC for a single max. 1.000kg bomb under the fuselage (R1), 2× 300l drop tanks on hardpoints under the tail booms (R2) or wooden racks with 2× 12 unguided R4M missiles under the outer wings (R3). After an initial batch of forty A-1 aircraft, R1 and R2 were incorporated into series production, which then became, with several other equipment changes, the A-2 main series. Almost all older models were brought to this standard within a few months, even though the gun armament differed considerably between individual aircraft.


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2; ,,<+ – yellow", VI/JG.7, Deutsche Luftwaffe. Personal mount of Gruppenadjutant Ferdinand Walgenbach, Teltow, Summer 1946 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

All in all, a total of 243 Me 709 were built, all of them A series aircraft. By the time designs were being ironed out, the revolutionary Me 262 and Ar 234 turbojets and the introduction of more potent and reliable jet engines like the Heinkel-Hirth HeS 011 negated the need for further piston-engined fighter design and stopped further development of the Me 709.



Me 709 A-2, general characteristics:
Crew: 1
Length: 36 ft 1 in (11.01 m)
Wingspan: 40 ft 6½ in (12.38 m)
Height: 11 ft 11 in (3.64 m)
Wing area: 221.72 ft² (20.68 m²)
Empty weight: 10.665 lb (4.842 kg)
Loaded weight: 14.405 lb (6.540 kg)
Max. take-off weight: 18.678 lb (8.480 kg)

Performance:
Maximum speed: 760 km/h (472 mph) at 6.400m (21.000 ft)
Range: 620 mi (840 km ) with internal fuel only
Service ceiling: 36,000 ft (10.970 m)
Rate of climb: 4.635 ft/min (23,6 m/s)
Wing loading: 29.8 lb/ft² (121.9 kg/m²)
Power/mass: 0.24 hp/lb (0.39 kW/kg)

Engine:
2× Daimler-Benz DB 603G inverted V-12 liquid-cooled piston engine, 1,287 kW (1,726 hp) each

Armament:
Varied, but typically four cannons in the front of the tail booms. Typically, 2× 30 mm (1.18 in) MK 103 cannons with 50 RPG and 2× 30 mm (1.18 in) MK 108 cannons with 110 RPG were fitted; additionally up to 1.000 kg of external loads, including bombs, drop tanks and R4M unguided missiles.


The kit and its assembly:
This what-if was inspired by a picture of a very similar model I found a while ago in the WWW, and I found the idea of a push/pull Me 109 derivate very attractive. Why not?

When I thought about how to realize such a model with as little effort as possible, I came across HUMA's Me 609 kit - and this basically offered anything necessary, bare the tail booms. These were quickly gathered from the spare box: they come from a Fw 189 (Airfix) and were cut just behind the wings' trailing edge. Still a little massive for this slender fighter, but using the front sides as radiator intakes is a neat solution which also frees the fuselage from the bulky cooler tub of the Me 309.

Originally I wanted to incorporate the original outer wings of HUMA's Me 609 (which are 100% Me 309 wings - you even have to close the landing gear bays by yourself to use them in the original kit!), but found the wing span to become much too big for my conversion. They inspired the 'B' version, though.
Anyway, I was lucky that I found a pair of He 162 wings in the scrap box, leftover pieces from my Ki-53 whif. They fit nicely in size and design, and this way the 'A' version was born.


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) - WIP by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Almost anything in my Me 709 build comes from the HUMA kit, but it took some putty work to put some of the parts together. Esp. melding the additional rearward-facing engine with the shortened Me 309 fuselage was tricky. Another challenge was to move the inner wing sections backwards. The original, single part which connects the two fusaleges had to be cut in half, so that the original fuselage intersections would not fit anymore. The cockpit is OOB, the pilot figure comes from the scrap box, though (Matchbox).

As a side note: Fit and detail of the HUMA kit is rather poor, and the material is rather waxy. O.K., it is a small company, with limited production runs. But for the fact that this kit has been around for so long, quality standards of the late 70ies are IMHO hard to accept. Best thing about the kit is the injected clear canopy... Good that I got the kit rather cheap - if I had to build it OOB, I'd be really disappointed!


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) - WIP by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Further modifications include the closure of the original radiator bath under the fuselage, and the rear engine (cut away from the leftover second fuselage) needed some serious surgery, including the closure of the landing gear bay under the engine. The rear engine exhausts had to be built from scratch, since they would have faced forward and also obstruct the attachment area of the added engine to the forward fuselage.


Painting and markings:
For this plane, a typical late German WWII paint scheme was intended, and I settled for a late Bf 109 G livery in RLM 81/82/76 (Braunviolett, Dunkelgrün and Lichtblau), with a wavy but clear demarcation between upper and lower sides and a few, sharp blotches along the flanks.


1:72 Messerschmitt Me 709 A-2; ,,<+ – yellow", VI/JG.7, Deutsche Luftwaffe. Personal mount of Gruppenadjutant Ferdinand Walgenbach, Teltow, Summer 1946 (Whif/Luft'46/kit bashing) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Testors/Model Master paints were used with authentic RLM tones (Testors 2090 and 2091 for above, Humbrol 128 below). In a second step, these colors were lightened/bleached through dry-brushing with slightly lighter tones (Humbrol 155 and 116 on top sides, Testors 2086 below).

Additionally, a light black ink wash was applied in order to emphasize details and panel lines. I added some patches with RLM 76 and 02 which are to represent areas where older markings had been painted over in a hurry. All trim tabs were painted in red brown (Humbrol 100), the spinners were painted 2/3 black, 1/3 white, a typical Me 109 F/G/K design.

For squadron markings, I wanted to have something authentic. The red and blue bands around the tail booms are typical late war ID markings, they belong to the 7th Jagdstaffel (JG. 7). Furthermore, the yellow horizontal bar marks the machine as being part of the 2nd group (which organizationally comprises 2nd, 6th, 10th squadron etc.).

The simple black chevron with white outlines on the central fuselage shows that the pilot is the Group's Second-in-Command (Gruppenadjutant), I christened him Ferdinand Walgenbach, totally fictional and with no real person in mind. As an officer's personal ride, the plane consequently carries no further tactical code, e .g. a number in the group's color. The small "A" in the chevron (obscured by exhaust dirt) is a personal addition of the pilot - not unusual among officers' markings. The Luftwaffe had a complicated system, didn't they?

Bands and squadron markings were puzzled together from various TL Modellbau decal sheets from Germany - very good stuff for individual conversions and of high print quality.

Another side note: The "Planes & Pilots" book series from France is a very good reference and inspiration here, as well as for squadron markings.

In the end, the result looks less spectacular than expected?

NARSES2

Reminds me of some Italian projects - lovely work  :thumbsup:

How many more of these have we got waiting to swoop on us ?  ;D
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.


Dizzyfugu

Let's see... almost 10 aircraft (a duo is just on the bench), plus some potential anime whifs for the SF corner. I just take my time, one a day at best. It is just that I have a (vast?) archive with work from the last 2 years in store (incl. pics from much older things), and I do not want to spill anything out all at once.  :rolleyes:


PR19_Kit

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on July 18, 2012, 12:18:55 AM

......but found the wing span to become much too big for my conversion.


Fantastic model Thomas, and the backstory is superb.  :thumbsup: :bow:

I don't understand the quoted bit though...............  ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Dizzyfugu

Ah, I see... it ain't got contraprops, either  ;)

But it still leaves room for a "B" version to be built!

Tophe

[the word "realistic" hurts my heart...]


RussC

Great concept, blend of Flitzer, the Blohm/Voss types and other twin booms. The radiator placement is a novel idea.

Like the hangar indoor shots with the backlighting most especially  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :mellow:
"Build what YOU want, the way YOU want to"  - Al Superczynski

kerick

" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Dizzyfugu

The hangar backdrop was an experiment - I am not professional at making photos and just use a very basic pocket camera. Sometimes it is is hit or miss - and in this case the strong contrast of the sunlight makes a very good impression, esp. because I also used a rather dark base. Another nice detail are the bullet holes on the doors to the left - looks very "lively" ;)

sequoiaranger

#12
I very much enjoyed this!

I did something similar, but different. You may recognize the wings and twin booms!

http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php?action=gallery;sa=view;id=4127

And then someone else did this Hungarian "Marton":

My mind is like a compost heap: both "fertile" and "rotten"!

Ed S

Twin boom fighters. Of course, we need more of them. This is a great looking one.

Ed
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ysi_maniac

Will die without understanding this world.