AlbaDora in Spanish Air Tercios

ysi_maniac · July 23, 2012, 09:21:17 AM

This project/concept dates from more than 5 years ago http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,14387.0.html

At the end of this thread a Philippine (from Philip II, not from Philippine Islands) DORA is promised. After years,
that Dora became Black AlbaDora.

There was a parallel project in this parallel world http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,21400.0.html

Now a bit of History http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tercio

In this last thread you could see why BLACK:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/44/Uebergabe_von_Breda.jpg
In this famous painting, Spanish generals are in the right side, wearing black which was fashion in spanish society of the time, deeply marked by religion.

You can also compare dressing in Queen Elizabeth I and King Philip II
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/af/Darnley_stage_3.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2d/Portrait_of_Philip_II_of_Spain_by_Sofonisba_Anguissola_-_002b.jpg

ysi_maniac · July 23, 2012, 09:23:45 AM

Progress update

Go4fun · July 23, 2012, 11:46:26 AM

I love it. So a dual engine type plane?

Old Wombat · July 23, 2012, 06:29:35 PM

Now, that's just cheating!

Especially as you gave the Spitfire an Allison-esque engine instead of a RR Merlin!

Gotta have an Avon-engined Hurricane, now, to even things up a bit!

ysi_maniac · July 23, 2012, 07:31:33 PM

An Avon engined Hurricane? ... Hmmm ... sounds delicious

NARSES2 · July 24, 2012, 01:07:58 AM

Going together well my friend

ysi_maniac · July 31, 2012, 09:55:54 AM

Collecting info:

Here you can see flag of Spanish ships: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Invincible_Armada.jpg
Here you can see that Murrey, Purple or Crimsom (you can choose the shade) was a frequent addition in old spanish uniforms. The Burgundy Cross on yellow background too: http://naricesrojas66.blogspot.com.es/2012/05/los-tercios-espanoles-un-tercio-era-una.html

sequoiaranger · July 31, 2012, 11:10:34 AM

And I thought *I* did "Frankenplanes"!!

ysi_maniac · August 07, 2012, 08:21:00 AM

What is this?

my fingerprint apart

Already corrected anyway. Bloody resolution!

NARSES2 · August 08, 2012, 12:14:00 AM

Kill markings ? 2 Dutch one English ?

sequoiaranger · August 08, 2012, 08:22:26 AM

Why?

ysi_maniac · August 08, 2012, 09:08:08 AM

Quote from: NARSES2 on August 08, 2012, 12:14:00 AM
Kill markings ? 2 Dutch one English ?

Perfect!

NARSES2 · August 08, 2012, 11:32:36 AM

Quote from: sequoiaranger on August 08, 2012, 08:22:26 AM
Why?

I assume (correct me if I'm wrong ysi) the origional Tercio's in the 16th century would have been fighting the Dutch and English and the scenario this aircraft fits in is an extension of that period's alliances and countries/empires ?

ysi_maniac · August 08, 2012, 11:43:09 AM

Hi NARSES2, you are right, and your knowledge of History is known

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Spanish_War_%281585%E2%80%931604%29
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_Revolt

These two conflicts were simultaneous and united.

NARSES2 · August 09, 2012, 07:31:16 AM

Quote from: ysi_maniac on August 08, 2012, 11:43:09 AM
Hi NARSES2, you are right, and your knowledge of History is known

Thank you.

It's a very interesting period of history and for a large part of it the Spanish army was the power in Europe. Very polyglot in it's makeup but it worked in what were days before Nationhood really took hold.

I've often pondered on where Spain would have gone if the royal line had not died out in the 1690's and been replaced by the Bourbon line ? No Spanish War of Succession but the powers would have found another causes beli that's for sure