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Hawker Siddeley Typhoon T2

Started by Gondor, September 08, 2012, 02:35:50 PM

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Devilfish

Not neccessarily. RN Carriers used the catapult strop, so a single nosewheel is feasible, and in actual fact, all British designed and built carrier-borne aircraft that I can think of only had a single nosewheel...

But, you'd have to beef up the main undercarriage and make the wing folding and add a proper hook......

Gondor

Quote from: Devilfish on September 12, 2012, 08:15:36 AM
Not neccessarily. RN Carriers used the catapult strop, so a single nosewheel is feasible, and in actual fact, all British designed and built carrier-borne aircraft that I can think of only had a single nosewheel...

But, you'd have to beef up the main undercarriage and make the wing folding and add a proper hook......

Yep...... pain so not doing it!

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Gondor

Not done much this last week other than build the ejector seats and paint the cockpit in it's base colour. I should get a lot more done over the weekend.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

kerick

Ideas like this is why I always come back to this site!
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Gondor

#19
A little more progress

Not sure about the fin which is only "placed" in position without glue or anything else to hold it there. Think I might have to scratch build or modify another fin if I can find one from somewhere.



A better view of the filler applied to the upper rear surface. I will probably follow the method used by Devilfish in his Hawker Siddeley Typhoon F1 with the air brakes with a slight modification. NACA intakes will be added when most of the build is done and will probably just be cut outs in this scale for the size of intakes required.



On the whole I am happy with the direction that the build is taking although I wish I could build quicker so that I could get it to a show this year rather than next year.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

NARSES2

Alistair, your build pace, is your pace. If you try and quicken it to much you won't be happy with the results. I for one enjoy "listening" to your thought processes  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

kerick

If you rush it it won't be up to your usual standards. Take your time and it will be a show stopper.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Gondor

I am going to be off work for a few days with a bad back  :banghead: but I can sit at a table modelling away from time to time.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Gondor

#23
Why is it that late at night or travelling as a passenger somewhere you can come up with answers to problems or even dream up interesting models?

Well last night I realised how I could change the rather non Hawker looking EFA tail fin, which to me looks more like a Soviet designed fin but more of that when I get a second ESCI EFA, and change it into something better. Well I decided that I could not do so for partly the reason above and secondly I thought I had a fin somewhere in one of my spares boxes. Later I realised that I have a Whirlybirds Hawker P.1121 in the stash that could provide a template to the fin shape.

Remember how to make brass rubbing's, or rather the technique



after a little work with a protractor and ruler I came to the conclusion that the fin's leading edge was at an angle of 28o



I did think that the fin of the P.1121 was a little on the short side so the fin for the Typhoon will be taller.

Here you can see the partly modified fin next to a cut out of the P.1121 fin for comparison.



Obviously there needs to be quite a bit of work carried out yet but here is a start....



Might be a little two swept back but as it's made out of plastic its easy to "chop" and change around if necessary.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Gondor on September 20, 2012, 02:24:45 PM
........ but as it's made out of plastic its easy to "chop" and change around if necessary.

The very essence of Whiffery!  ;D :lol: :thumbsup: :bow:
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Devilfish

I used Sir Sidney Camms principal of "if it looks right, it is right!" and did mine purely by eye.

Gondor

#26
I wasn't happy about sit of the rear of the fuselage spine as seen below, it looks as if it is sloping upwards towards the rear of the aircraft.....



so out came the mini drill with its circular saw blade and a few minutes later.....


which now looks like........



The picture from the rear also shows the construction of the rear of the aircraft.

The fin is causing me problems as I said in my last posting. However I thought, at 4am during a bathroom break, (inspiration and such)  that perhaps I should see what the result would look like if I used the same angle for the leading edge as the wing sweep was...... but then I was looking at some drawings of other Hawker aircraft around the early 60's and thought that I had better see what the fin would look like in relationship to the fuselage  so here is that answer......



Not happy with that as it looks way to big and it also confirmed my previous thought about the angle the leading edge of the fin has so I drew out the angle of the wing sweep back, on this model of the EFA which is 38o and placed the fin onto it.



I think that looks much better now so its back to the plastic.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

NARSES2

This is like watching someones brain working from the inside  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bow:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Thorvic

Something along these lines perhaps ?


Hawker Siddley HS-1202-11b. F-16 inspired but with Hawker wing and Tail.

G
Project Cancelled SIG Secretary, specialising in post war British RN warships, RN and RAF aircraft projects. Also USN and Russian warships

Gondor

Quote from: NARSES2 on September 21, 2012, 07:17:22 AM
This is like watching someones brain working from the inside  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :bow:

You seriously do NOT want to know how my mind works in reality, however I do not mind sharing how I arrive at the finished aircraft I build, especially like this one which I am really enjoying doing the working out of.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....