Hawker Siddeley Typhoon T2

Gondor · September 08, 2012, 02:35:50 PM

Defiantly a what if!

Inspired by this I decided to put my own twist to the idea.

So what can my subtly twisted mind come up with. Well to start with I decided to use the ESCI EFA as a basis for my build as it would provide much cleaner lines which would be more in keeping with a Hawker design.

I decided that the heat exchanges under the fuselage had to go, Far to chunky and bulky for Hawker's so at some point I will be adding some NACA ducts instead, once I build up the courage or run out of other parts of the build that I can do instead. The semi recessed Sparrow/Sky Flash locations will be filled in later as I do not feel they are fitting for this aircraft. I favour Red Top and Radar Red Top as weapons.

So with the fuselage together I decided to look at the exhausts. Not happy with what was provided in the kit I looked at the exhausts from a Trumpeter Lightning kit only to be a little disappointed with what was provided in the kit which made me realise why various correction sets were released for the exhausts.
However this did set my mind working and while shifting through my stash for an F-4M to turn into an RF-4M I realised that a set of R-R Spey's would be just the ticket.

Unfortunately the exhaust shrouds from the Fujimi kit examples don't fit

A couple of cuts, one to each side of the spine and the addition of a piece of plastic card later......

They Fit!!

The next step was the cut the underside of the fuselage into several sections to help contour around the larger diameter engines.

The addition of some plastic tubing into the rear of the fuselage, which the exhausts fit nicely into, helps to keep the shape at the rear of the fuselage especially not that the existing plastic needs to be "extended" to cover the more corpulent rear.

Isn't it wonderful how plans change. I was looking at the width at the rear of the fuselage and realised that the gap between the exhausts was far too wide to my eye. So out came a saw and I started to cut the sheet plastic inside the fuselage into two only to have the plastic tube pop out of the fuselage

so much for using Liquid Poly for joining the tubes to the fuselage.

Plan "B" involved adding various amounts of plastic between the plastic tubes to pack them out to the correct width, seen below clamped into place while the super glue was drying.

When I fitted the tubing to the insides of the rear fuselage I used my BERNA Multiclamp to handle the curvature of both the fuselage and tube, normal clamping methods were used to ensure that everything would hold together.

I have checked to see if the widening of the fuselage rear has affected the angle that the wing tip pods are in relation to each other. Fortunately they appear, at least going by the grid on my cutting mat, to be parallel with each other.

Hopefully I can progress fairly rapidly with this build although I suspect that the RF-4M may nudge this build to the side but we will see.

Godor

TsrJoe · September 09, 2012, 12:06:53 AM

looking really good so far Alistair, definately going to look different from the norm methinks, especially with that widened back end to acommodate the Spey burner exhausts

the fin will hopefully have the distinctive 'Hawker curve' altho the later designs, eg F.16/17 analogues had mostly angular ones (some itinerations did still carry rounded tips and LE. run ins to the fuselage tho)

cheers, Joe

NARSES2 · September 09, 2012, 01:55:33 AM

Engineering in miniature at its best

Devilfish · September 09, 2012, 11:58:52 PM

Wow. That's taking my idea to the next level.

I have my 1/48 Tiff in the stash now awaiting it's turn to become the bigger brother of my first effort (your inspiration

). My first one was done at a faster pace than I'd have liked as it was done for a GB on another site.

Will be watching this one with interest.

Just one point I've noticed....the heat exchangers don't appear on my one. They are recessed already. I'm assuming the Esci kit is based on a prototype?

Gondor · September 10, 2012, 03:16:26 AM

I think the Esci kit was based on a set of drawings let alone a prototype aircraft.

Gondor

Thorvic · September 10, 2012, 04:25:49 AM

Quote from: Gondor on September 10, 2012, 03:16:26 AM
I think the Esci kit was based on a set of drawings let alone a prototype aircraft.

Gondor

Actually i think it and the Revell EFA were based on the Mock Ups

TallEng · September 10, 2012, 05:15:41 AM

Now that is strange/funny,

because,

Inspired by this I decided to put my own twist to the idea.

Is exactly what I thought!
Except I was going to try and "Hunterise" it a bit more

In fact I've got this far with it,

Hope you don't mind the thread jacking, I expect yours will be finished long before mine,
I look forward seeing more

Regards
Keith

Devilfish · September 10, 2012, 06:50:03 AM

Oooooooooh....I think I've started something here........

Looks like I'm going to have to get on with my 1/48 one and incorporate all the things I didn't get the chance to on the small one!

ysi_maniac · September 10, 2012, 09:43:32 AM

Going cool!

Gondor · September 10, 2012, 11:00:03 AM

Not worried about the tread jacking though it would be nice to see what your doing. The really interesting part will be when I try to make this a twin stick machine

Kind of concentrating on the RF-4M at the moment although I have not stopped working on this build.

Gondor

Devilfish · September 10, 2012, 11:13:03 PM

Quote from: Gondor on September 10, 2012, 11:00:03 AM
Not worried about the tread jacking though it would be nice to see what your doing. The really interesting part will be when I try to make this a twin stick machine

Kind of concentrating on the RF-4M at the moment although I have not stopped working on this build.

Gondor

If it's any use, I think I have the canopy still from mine, which started life as a twin sticker. Alternatively, you could use something more "period" like a Bucc canopy?

Gondor · September 11, 2012, 11:41:03 AM

Thanks for the offer Devilfish but I already have plans for the front end and the parts to do it. I usually plan out my builds before I start cutting plastic, saying that I decided that I should use ejector seats from a Fujimi F-4K/M instead of the seats provided in the donor kit.

Gondor

Captain Canada · September 11, 2012, 08:10:46 PM

Neat stuff. I love navalized Typhoons...no matter whhere they come from !

Devilfish · September 11, 2012, 11:16:25 PM

Quote from: Captain Canada on September 11, 2012, 08:10:46 PM
Neat stuff. I love navalized Typhoons...no matter whhere they come from !

Is it going to be a Navy one?

I used an Aeroclub Phantom seat in mine. Next one will have a Mk9 probably as it will be the same period as the Harrier. I've been planning the new rear end (doing research on period engines, sizes, weights, thrust etc) and also the new intakes. Cockpit layout is pretty much decidd, but I am still undecided on what canopy to use....

Gondor · September 12, 2012, 04:26:46 AM

Quote from: Captain Canada on September 11, 2012, 08:10:46 PM
Neat stuff. I love navalized Typhoons...no matter where they come from !

That's news to me and I am building the aircraft

It is defiantly going to be Royal Air Force though I have yet to decide which squadron although as it's a trainer it could well end up in an OCU or similar.

I have toyed with the idea of making the aircraft a naval variant though. I decided against it though as I would have to do even more work than I already have to do as well as find or modify the nose leg into a twin wheel affair.

Gondor