Daryl J.'s Rather Random Thought Repository

[Daryl J.]

Yeah...the Javelin might be best simply called The Javelin.    

American publications that I read in the 70s were very condescending regarding the type.  

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Revell/Monogam F-84G (and F):  Swedish splinter greens with day glo orange.
Monogram AV-8A:  Same scheme, rumors of resin accessories happening at current time.

[PR19_Kit]

Yeah...the Javelin might be best simply called The Javelin.   

American publications that I read in the 70s were very condescending regarding the type.   

Nothing new there then.........

It wasn't called 'The Flatiron' for nothing but it was immensely strong and was a good stable weapons platform with a BIG radar, which is what the RAF needed at the time. Calling it a 'fighter' or an 'interceptor' would be pushing one's luck I feel but the same could be said of the F-89 and F-94, both aircraft of similar thought processes and of the period.

[Daryl J.]

 Now that the idea of a Strike Javelin has been ruled out, what I hope to do with the up and coming Airfix kit is to take advantage of that radar and create some sort of long range stand-off missile for the Norskes using some color-name combination that seemed to be the trend of the time.   As to it being anti aircraft, anti radiation, or a nuke tipped SRBM will be decided later.  Another idea being a British EA-6A contemporary.

If what some of my American Veteran friends say is anything close to true, there was much that happened during the cold war in and around Norway that is outside the typical Yankee Verstehen.   And what better to include than a Javelin save for the TSR-2.  

What I think of the F-94 series could easily set off a political discussi-nonconstructus so I'll just say I find it a stupid aircraft even though my home state of Montana flew them as well as the Scorpion.  

[Martin H]

I believe that Glosters looked at a number of Photo-recci projects for the Javelin. Could be a starting point for a plausible whiff.

[PR19_Kit]

I believe that Glosters looked at a number of Photo-recci projects for the Javelin. Could be a starting point for a plausible whiff.

With longer wings? 

[Daryl J.]

Yes, at least one proposal had longer wings.  The P.348 .

[Daryl J.]

Israel reportedly wanted the Intruder.   Hmmmmm.......


I wonder what else they have wanted.

[NARSES2]

Yeah...the Javelin might be best simply called The Javelin.   

American publications that I read in the 70s were very condescending regarding the type.   

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Didn't the US Govt consider the Javelin for MAP funding ?

Anyway as a small kid in the 50's early 60's the Javelin really impressed me  And as an "older" person now it still looks a heck of a beast  Looking forward to the new Airfix tooling.

An Isreali Intruder would look good andI'm sure there are loads of profiles/graphics on site which cover them

[eatthis]

Interceptors:  Javelin, Skyray, Draken,  CF-105, EE Lightning

Eh? Can you use 'Javelin' and 'interceptor' in the same sentance? 

i thought interception was th only thing it was (nearly) good for

[Daryl J.]

Which is why I hope my kit will carry a Hughes missie that lies somewhere between the AIM-47 and AIM-54 if placed in Norwegian service.   

[Daryl J.]

I'll never forget the face of a friend of mine going pale when I asked him about certain electronic aspects of the U-2R and S over a decade ago.   Either Hyperscale or ArcAir had been abuzz about some new monitoring and satellite capabilities found on the airframe and since he worked for Hughes, I figured he'd be a source for fact.  Well, as it turns out, what was being mentioned on the discussion boards was still classified and it made him very uncomfortable.   After a while he said that one of their biggest problems with security was model airplane builders because we would dig relentlessly and share everything we found.  

So, with that sort of introduction, it only seems logical to model some of what had been discussed online.  Tim only could talk a little, such as being places he didn't even know where he was and watching a U-2 go down on their screens.  As far as additional facts, he kept security protocol faithfully.  Now the U-2 and TR-1 are very cool but are limited in many ways as to building in 1:48.  

But there is the F-4x. And the RF-4 series.   And there are Swedes with all sorts of access to the USSR.   And North Dakota is full of Scandinavians complete with a thick Scandihoove accent.   And, at one time, it was full F-4 Phantoms.   And Eastern Montana was under the flight path of the SR-71 on its way over the pole.   So....RF-4x, Swedes, splinter green, Hughes reconnaissance avionics pods, practice in the Northern Great Plains and service throughout Scandinavia/USSR and with the UN.   Hasegawa RF-4(B/E) as the base kit.  The point: the Swedes pioneered tracking and instant BDA pods.    


Or some such backstory.  It's pretty roughly thought out at this time.

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Revell 1:48 MiG-25 now redundant.  Make use of its oversized shape errors, stretch the cockpit area a bit. Possibly use the inevitable resin wheel wells to be issued for the Kitty Hawk kit.    Interim machine between the MiG-25 and MiG-31.  Reconnaissance duties?   

[Daryl J.]

Tamiya's Meteor F.3 has been languishing in its box for near 5 years with its guns removed awaiting conversion into a PR test bed.   Rather than use a production style PR nose, this machine will test recce pods at the wing tips likely made from Monogram F/A-18 drop tanks as they are both big enough and look decidedly non-supersonic.

Perhaps call the project Green Eyes, Optical Cheese, or some such.

Debating to whether it should be an aluminum painted RAF machine or in Khemed markings since Tintin has been a lifelong delight.

[eatthis]

what was actually wrong with the javelin?

[Go4fun]

I'll never forget the face of a friend of mine going pale when I asked him about certain electronic aspects of the U-2R and S over a decade ago.   Either Hyperscale or ArcAir had been abuzz about some new monitoring and satellite capabilities found on the airframe and since he worked for Hughes, I figured he'd be a source for fact. Well, as it turns out, what was being mentioned on the discussion boards was still classified and it made him very uncomfortable.   After a while he said that one of their biggest problems with security was model airplane builders because we would dig relentlessly and share everything we found.  

I was at the local Air Base and saw a pair of B-2s sent there to avoid storms at they're home base area. I was Army National Guard on duty at our post near the flight line and I asked a National Guard Airman what a pair of 'Bones' were doing there. He looked me dead in the eye and said "Sergeant, I see no invisible classified aircraft anywhere on this air base property".  

[Daryl J.]

Regarding the 1:48 Monogram F-4C/D/J kit:  
Rescribe to either USAF or USN specs.
Remove radome, add approximately 1/4 inch behind it with 3 dedicated recce windows.
No Sparrows but retain Sidewinder capability.  
Close canopy after detailing upper 1/2 of seats as there is virtually no aftermarket detailing for the rather busy interior. Resin cockpits often all but disappear from sight beneath a closed canopy. Close over the intakes and nozzles.
Is an alternative Recce Phantom to the production versions and the 3 Peace Jacks.  Simple paint scheme to draw attention to new nose.
Aftermarket wheels to match either USAF or USN types.
Nation of choice operates it.   Or Khemed.