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Lockheed Martin F-35A, B, C and other ideas

Started by Taiidantomcat, November 27, 2012, 01:52:48 PM

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PR19_Kit

Quote from: rickshaw on April 13, 2013, 01:48:37 AM
Is it a trick of perspective or are the wings in the top picture of the F-35 longer than normal?

It certainly looks like it, but aren't the A version wings longer anyway?
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kitnut617

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 13, 2013, 01:51:06 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on April 13, 2013, 01:48:37 AM
Is it a trick of perspective or are the wings in the top picture of the F-35 longer than normal?

It certainly looks like it, but aren't the A version wings longer anyway?

If it's the photo you're refering to, that looks like the C (judging by the twin nose wheels and catapult bar attached to the leg) which does have a bigger wing.
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: kitnut617 on April 13, 2013, 05:45:35 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 13, 2013, 01:51:06 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on April 13, 2013, 01:48:37 AM
Is it a trick of perspective or are the wings in the top picture of the F-35 longer than normal?

It certainly looks like it, but aren't the A version wings longer anyway?

If it's the photo you're refering to, that looks like the C (judging by the twin nose wheels and catapult bar attached to the leg) which does have a bigger wing.

If so is the hook in that bulge under the jet-pipe? I've not seen that on an F-35 pic before.
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Hobbes

Isn't that photo manipulated to show the fictional version as shown in the plan view?

Thorvic

Quote from: PR19_Kit on April 13, 2013, 07:14:10 AM

If so is the hook in that bulge under the jet-pipe? I've not seen that on an F-35 pic before.

Yeap thats the housing for the arrestor hook, the hook is anchored against the main gear bulkhead
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rickshaw

Quote from: Hobbes on April 13, 2013, 07:31:44 AM
Isn't that photo manipulated to show the fictional version as shown in the plan view?

I don't think so.  The wingtip that is visible is square, whereas the fictional F-53 is raked.
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kitnut617

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A google image search quickly reveals the answer, it is the F-35C.  Other photos of it show the fin flashes better.  In the February Air International there's a photo of the last test F-35C arriving at it's destination (NAS Patuxent River) and you can see the bulge in the pic quite well.
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Taiidantomcat

More F-35C:





underside



really showing off the bigger wings. The larger wings (along with the most fuel carried by any JSF variant-no gun/lift fan) will make it the longest ranged variant and the best turning variant as well, though it costs it trans sonically.



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PR19_Kit

The C wing has a noticably larger chord too, so much so that it stretches past the LE of the tailplane!

What are the two longitudinal bulges inboard of the intakes though?
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rickshaw

If they eliminated the wingfold on the C, it would be a much better land-based version, with greater range and load.
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Thorvic

Quote from: rickshaw on April 13, 2013, 05:54:17 PM
If they eliminated the wingfold on the C, it would be a much better land-based version, with greater range and load.

True but it does have an effect on the agility as the A's aimed as an F-16 replacement, where as the C is Hornet replacement for Strike and Interceptor roles.

They may mix n match features in the next decade once the normal development schedule is completed as they simply don't have the resources to look into hybrids until they have the performance and programming done for the thre main variants completed. However once that is done we might see some work into evolving the range into new models to target other custumers.
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Another C.

Turkey has been said to be interested in the C but its been just a few scattered reports here and there, so nothing solid.
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McColm

Looks like the same problems are repeating itself.
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 :unsure: that planes got chicken pox!    or the ground crew are far to much into poitalisam
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