model aircraft in art?

Started by ericr, January 05, 2013, 11:16:58 AM

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perttime

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 25, 2013, 08:36:08 AM
I'm afraid that sort of 'art' doesn't impress me in the slightest. Aircraft are meant to be either flying or about to fly and having them on display in effectively 'crashed' situations does nothing for me and calls the artist's motives into question.  :-\
I suppose it is a very different situation when an aviation museum displays a military aircraft in a "crashed state". At least I see it differently.


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The Rat

Meh, art is entirely subjective, if someone thinks it's art, then it is, for them. If we start applying standards and criteria we risk becoming JANs (Joyless Artsie Numpties). There are still many who think that the people on this site are commiting sacrilege by not making exact replicas. And as far as motives? I am neither pacifist not militarist, just a realist, but if we don't have people on both sides expressing their views we are the poorer as a society. Art is supposed to make people think, and occasionally make them mad.
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ericr

art is sometimes a touchy topic, but indeed, JNA-ism can be avoided  ;)
When you don't like it, it doesn't hurt.

and about aircraft being exhibited, here is something with quite a transformation from the original, by Abdessemed :



rickshaw

Mmm, there is something almost perverted about that sculpture.  I like it!   :thumbsup:

I think art is indeed very subjective.  As my father was want to say, "Opinions are like a*seh*les, everyboy's got one!"  Either you like it or you don't.   Expending effort to try and convince others, either way is IMO rather pointless.
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ChernayaAkula

Quote from: The Rat on September 25, 2013, 09:56:18 AM
Meh, art is entirely subjective, if someone thinks it's art, then it is, for them. If we start applying standards and criteria we risk becoming JANs (Joyless Artsie Numpties). There are still many who think that the people on this site are commiting sacrilege by not making exact replicas. And as far as motives? I am neither pacifist not militarist, just a realist, but if we don't have people on both sides expressing their views we are the poorer as a society. Art is supposed to make people think, and occasionally make them mad.

Quoted for truth!  :thumbsup:

Something that I read recently (apparently this was said by Marina Abramović, herself a performance artist) and that seems relevant to this thread:
"Once, Picasso was asked what his paintings meant. He said, "Do you ever know what the birds are singing? You don't. But you listen to them anyway." So, sometimes with art, it is important just to look."

As for the G.91, Shar and Jaguar, dozens, if not hundreds, of their types were unceremoniously cut-up for scrap after they were phased out. It's not like these were taken from museums or would deprive museums of the ability to get one for their exhibitions.
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Quote from: rickshaw on September 25, 2013, 08:30:08 PM
Mmm, there is something almost perverted about that sculpture.  I like it!   :thumbsup:

Same here  :thumbsup:

And well said Ratty  :bow: Art is very much in the eye of the beholder. It would be a sad old world if we all liked the same thing  :-\
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

perttime

Quote from: rickshaw on September 25, 2013, 08:30:08 PM
Mmm, there is something almost perverted about that sculpture.  I like it!   :thumbsup:
I think the artist must also be a baker - or watched his/her mother do baking every week.


jcf

Nguyen Manh Hung
http://hung6776.com/web/

Go To Market
http://hung6776.com/web/index.php?id=48





Flight
Joint project with American artist Bradford Edwards, both men's fathers were pilots during the Vietnam War.
Hung's father flew Mig 19s, Bradford's father helicopters and the F-4.
http://hung6776.com/web/index.php?id=9





He uses aircraft (along with tanks, cars, trucks etc.) in paintings as well.


Interesting stuff including his architectural and social themed work.

ericr

Quote from: perttime on September 26, 2013, 08:11:11 AM
Quote from: rickshaw on September 25, 2013, 08:30:08 PM
Mmm, there is something almost perverted about that sculpture.  I like it!   :thumbsup:
I think the artist must also be a baker - or watched his/her mother do baking every week.


don't forget the famous (?) movie poster :



ericr

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on September 27, 2013, 02:16:49 PM
Nguyen Manh Hung
http://hung6776.com/web/



thanks a lot for that link!!!  :thumbsup:

a lot of astonishing, unexpected images!

The bottle and cans worload for the jets is inspiring  ;)
and the shopping bags are just lovely!


ericr

this looks like an interaction between graphic arts and aircraft that woul please even realism-inclined modellers?




there seems to have been a whole series of them, in the late 90s




ericr



this uses models, covered in drapes apparently remembering a gesture by M. Thatcher

http://www.contemporaryartdaily.com/2010/11/nick-relph-at-herald-st/





ericr


and here is someone who really builds models, in the same scales as us all it seems, but he ... prints photographs on them ???


http://blog.honoluluacademy.org/artists-of-hawaii-2013-john-ferdico-the-persuasiveness-of-craft/






ericr


PR19_Kit

Quote from: ericr on September 30, 2013, 04:34:45 AM
this looks like an interaction between graphic arts and aircraft that woul please even realism-inclined modellers?




there seems to have been a whole series of them, in the late 90s

There certainly was!

Those were the BA Ethnic Tail schemes introduced in 1997 and there were THIRTY FIVE of them, some good, some terrible and some just mediocre. The current scheme carried by BA was one of those tails, called the 'Chatham Dockyard' scheme for some strange reason and it was originally only used on BA Concordes but has now been adopted for the whole BA fleet.

Try Google Images for 'British Airways ethnic liveries' and you'll get buried in the things.  ;D

To my mind the Ethnic Tails were a giant step backward from the wonderful Landor scheme used in the 80s and 90s but that's just my opinion.





Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

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Kit