Exocet

[jcf]

Yep, aesthetically speaking, the 04 suits the Sea Vixen and Javelin.

[Daryl J.]

Thanks, all.

The 04 it is then.   Where this is all going is hanging a non-British, non-American anti shipping missile set under each aircraft during their tenure in the Royal Norwegian AF adding to the international flavour.   It seems some Russian fishing trawlers disappeared.  (saw one of those with my own eyes in port in Norway 1967, Dad still has the Kodachrome 64 slide)


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And now back to Exocet discussions:


The Monogram Mirage 2000 kit contains which Exocet version?

[PR19_Kit]

But where do you get a kit than contains Rb04s?

I've only ever found an obscure vacform that contained two of them and an underbelly tank to update the lovely Heller Lansen kit. One day I may even build it......

[Weaver]

I agree on the Rb04 for the Javelin and Sea Vixen too!   Where you get them from depends on the scale. Just about all the 1/72nd AJ.37 Viggen kits have two or three in them. I think the Heller Lansen has a couple too. In 1/48th scale, I don't know.


Any air-launched Exocet is an AM-39. All AM-39s are the same shape, but the electronics have been updated a couple of times. AM-39s are shorter than MM-38s and have triangular wings instead of swept ones.

[jcf]

Use a drawing and fake it, seems to me that a modified drop tank and some plastic card
would get close enough.
Drawing on this IPMS-Stockholm page:
http://www.ipmsstockholm.se/home/bevapningsalternativ-for-a32a-lansen/

[Weaver]

Maestro Models do resin ones in 1/72nd and 1/48th:

http://www.maestromodels.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=rb04

Given that these are the specialists for everything Swedish I'd bet on them being the best Rb04s you can get. I'll also bet on them not being the cheapest though....

EDIT: yep, £18 and £15 a pair for 1/48th and 1/72nd respectively at Hannants.....

[PR19_Kit]

Afraid not on the Heller Lansen kit, it's distinctively devoid of any stores at all. If it had I wouldn't have needed the vacform stuff.....

I didn't know about Rb04s being in Viggen kits, I think that's one 'modern' jet I've never bought, how dumb. 

[Mossie]

Without having it to hand at the moment, I'm almost certain they don't feature in the Airfix 1/48 kit (which is a reboxing of the ESCI kit).  I'll have a look later.

[Dizzyfugu]

Another interesting and unique ASM is the Norwegian Penguin. It's odd since it has an IR seeker and does not rely or even need a guidance radar, AFAIK, so it can be hung under a wide variety of aircraft. The late versions have a pretty high range, I am just not certain when the original missile was introduced. Must be 80ies, though.

[rickshaw]

Another interesting and unique ASM is the Norwegian Penguin. It's odd since it has an IR seeker and does not rely or even need a guidance radar, AFAIK, so it can be hung under a wide variety of aircraft. The late versions have a pretty high range, I am just not certain when the original missile was introduced. Must be 80ies, though.

First introduced into Norwegian service in the early 1970s IIRC.  Initially ship borne, then modified for air launch.  Uses inertial guidance initially and then IR for terminal guidance.  It is the only Western anti-ship missile which performs manoeuvres before hitting its target to complicate defensive measures.

[Weaver]

I thought later Harpoons did terminal manoeuvres? I know they have a re-attack mode: if the "countdown to impact" timer gets into negative numbers they assume they've just flown through a chaff cloud and do a smart 180 to have another go....

[Mr.Creak]

Penguin does waypoint manoeuvres it can be fired at, say, 90 degrees to its target before turning back at mid-course toward it - thus deceiving the target as to its launch point. Rather different from terminal manoeuvres.

[Gondor]

Afraid not on the Heller Lansen kit, it's distinctively devoid of any stores at all. If it had I wouldn't have needed the vacform stuff.....

I didn't know about Rb04s being in Viggen kits, I think that's one 'modern' jet I've never bought, how dumb. 

The Airfix Viggen have a pair of Rb04's so does the Matchbox Viggen. There is also at least this after market Rb04 http://www.maestromodels.com/resin-set/rb04e-attack-missiles-for-aj37-viggen-1.html

Gondor

[PR19_Kit]

There is also at least this after market Rb04 http://www.maestromodels.com/resin-set/rb04e-attack-missiles-for-aj37-viggen-1.html

That's the one that Weaver mentioned above, looks gorgeous but it's pretty darned expensive! 

[rickshaw]

Penguin does waypoint manoeuvres it can be fired at, say, 90 degrees to its target before turning back at mid-course toward it - thus deceiving the target as to its launch point. Rather different from terminal manoeuvres.

According to The Boys and Girls Book of World Knowledge:

Of NATO's inventory of such missiles, it is the only variant that performs a terminal bunt and weave manoeuvre.

Which is pretty good going really.