Short Sunderland developments...

[kitnut617]

You just sort of slipped the 'amphibian' bit in there, didn't you?  

Out of interest, I've read in an Air-Britain article, that the RCAF were considering using their Sunderlands as freighters to service their part in Tiger Force.  My backstory will have Canadian Vickers doing the converting and as they had just wrapped up production of amphibian Catalinas (RW stuff) they suggested converting some of the Sunderland Freighters into amphibians using the PBY gear as a pattern.  Later when Canadian Vickers morphed into Canadair they used the experience to design and build the CL-215/415 (more RW stuff concerning the company names but I'm sure that the PBY gear influenced how the CL-215 gear were designed)

[NARSES2]

Whoah there Robert! 

You just sort of slipped the 'amphibian' bit in there, didn't you? 

My thoughts as well. Suits the aircraft though and takes the development timeline on into the late 40's early 50's rather naturally in my view 

[kitnut617]

Thanks again guys --

If the BC logging company consortium had not chosen the Martin Mars to be their water bomber, the Sunderland could have been what was as it was under consideration.  If history had gone that way, I can see a few surviving Sunderlands still plying the airways today.

[The Rat]

Thanks again guys --

If the BC logging company consortium had not chosen the Martin Mars to be their water bomber, the Sunderland could have been what was as it was under consideration.  If history had gone that way, I can see a few surviving Sunderlands still plying the airways today.

I might be stealing that idea... 

[kitnut617]

Thanks again guys --

If the BC logging company consortium had not chosen the Martin Mars to be their water bomber, the Sunderland could have been what was as it was under consideration.  If history had gone that way, I can see a few surviving Sunderlands still plying the airways today.

I might be stealing that idea... 

I'd like to see what you come up with Dave    I'm doing mine as a Buffalo Air water bomber in Newfoundland & Labrador orange and green (and white stripes) scheme

[The Rat]

I'm doing mine as a Buffalo Air water bomber in Newfoundland & Labrador orange and green (and white stripes) scheme

Peas and Carrots? Beautiful scheme, I did a Bowrider like that a couple of years ago:

[ericr]

I'm doing mine as a Buffalo Air water bomber in Newfoundland & Labrador orange and green (and white stripes) scheme

Peas and Carrots? Beautiful scheme, I did a Bowrider like that a couple of years ago:

beautiful! it gives the Tradewind a new life!

[kitnut617]

What scale is the Tradewind?, I've picked up a 1/72 scale one along with a Martin Mars in the same scale. The Tradewind is bigger ---

[The Rat]

What scale is the Tradewind?, I've picked up a 1/72 scale one along with a Martin Mars in the same scale. The Tradewind is bigger ---

Box scale, according to one source it's 1/168th. Needs a lot of work, but good enough for whiffing!

[PR19_Kit]

What scale is the Tradewind?, I've picked up a 1/72 scale one along with a Martin Mars in the same scale. The Tradewind is bigger ---

The Tradewind was another of the recipients of the 'long planing hullform' design philosophy, like the Martin Seamaster. It makes for a very elegant but very long aeroplane. At least the original Tradewind was elegant, the freighter version somewhat less so.

[Rheged]

If it's any use to people here, my older  son (a part time volunteer at Solent Sky)  has several photos of the hull forms of the Short  Sandringham  Beachcomber, the Saro SR A1  and the Supermarine S6B.  We are having problems trying to post them here, but if anyone wants them, PM me your email address and I'll send them all on to you.

[McColm]

Would it be possible to fit Griffon engines to an Airfix or Revell Sunderland?
Great build by the way

[The Wooksta!]

You mean annular style Shackleton engines?  Yes, but the thrust line moves up if you fit cowling A to wing B, with consequent aerodynamic difficulties.  You'd have to remove the existing moulded wing cowlings and build new ones lower down.

Look at the side profile of the Beaufighter I and II - the thrust line is the same for both radial and inline but the cowling moves down.

[McColm]

Thanks 

[TsrJoe]

One for the 144 scale buffs perhaps found on eBay: http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=201476502837&alt=web