Corsair & Ducks à la BV P170, red : hybrid aircraft/animals e.a.

Started by ericr, April 21, 2013, 12:04:29 PM

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PR19_Kit

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

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steelpillow

Cheers.

ericr


I am quite proud that my modest model fired such specialists discussions  ;D

zenrat

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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NARSES2

Quote from: steelpillow on September 10, 2018, 08:56:14 AM

Don't any of you guys read the history books?  ;)

;D ;D

Just realised that Lightnings (the jet ones) had them as well.

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 10, 2018, 08:19:41 AM
Yes, but land based aircraft's hooks tend to be less stressed than the full-on carrier types.

Excuse me if I'm missing the point, but if they were intended to arrest the aircraft shouldn't they have been stressed the same as carrier aircraft's ?

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PR19_Kit

Quote from: NARSES2 on September 11, 2018, 06:28:30 AM

Excuse me if I'm missing the point, but if they were intended to arrest the aircraft shouldn't they have been stressed the same as carrier aircraft's ?


You'd have thought so, but carrier hooks are HEAVY duty looking things compared with their land based equivalents.

Compare an F-14 hook with a Lightning one, and don't compare Phantom hooks, they were carrier based to start with and the land based versions didn't use different hooks.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

zenrat

Quote from: NARSES2 on September 11, 2018, 06:28:30 AM
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Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 10, 2018, 08:19:41 AM
Yes, but land based aircraft's hooks tend to be less stressed than the full-on carrier types.

Excuse me if I'm missing the point, but if they were intended to arrest the aircraft shouldn't they have been stressed the same as carrier aircraft's ?



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Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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scooter

Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 11, 2018, 03:28:45 PM
Quote from: NARSES2 on September 11, 2018, 06:28:30 AM

Excuse me if I'm missing the point, but if they were intended to arrest the aircraft shouldn't they have been stressed the same as carrier aircraft's ?


You'd have thought so, but carrier hooks are HEAVY duty looking things compared with their land based equivalents.

Compare an F-14 hook with a Lightning one, and don't compare Phantom hooks, they were carrier based to start with and the land based versions didn't use different hooks.

A carrier hook has to cause a plane to go from landing speed to naught in a couple of hundred feet (or less) on a postage stamp.  A land based hook only has to act as an external braking force for x amount of hundreds of feet down concrete runway.
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kerick

It might have something to do with how often the hook gets used as well as the stopping distance.
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ericr


this is indeed a very high-level debate, exploring a very sensible hypothesis set ;
as the designer of his model, I can now reveal who did the right guess :

Zenrat

:thumbsup:

zenrat

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

ericr


talking about aircraft having comparable sizes ...

here comes, in the very same 1/72 scale, a Tomcat mixed with a B-17G fuselage I had left from an earlier project :



here too the wings are movable (but not together, individually)






TheChronicOne

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kerick

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Cobra

Super Cool :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: i can Picture somewhere in the world of Gerry Anderson, a Officoer of some Rogue Nation Yelling,"What? the World Air Force has a New Interceptor? Where were the Intell Reports? Who Dropped the ball? I Want Answers,NOW!" Keep up the Superb Work :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: Dan