FB-111H

[kitnut617]

Which book is that as it might explain where the urban myth of the long span K came from. All official documents and publications at the time clearly show and state the K was based on the A, only the C adopted the longer wings of the FB, so would love to know who got their facts wrongand created this headache   (poor Mike MvEvoy was gutted when he brought out at SMW his newly finished K's after sourcing hard to find C kits, for us to show him the actual features of the F-111K  ).

Isn't there a photo of the two F-111K airframes that were built which shows the long wings? They're in the corner of a hangar and the photo is taken from quite high, I've seen it quite recently somewhere.

Page 115, BSP, Jet Bombers since 1949.  these were the two UK versions that were put ""On-Hold"" (the reason they were moved to the place in the photo) and then later 'reduced to spares' and used on the F-111A production line.  The wings appear to be the short span ones though. If these were based on F-111A's but were reduced to spares I still haven't found out what the differences were that they just couldn't be placed back into the production line as-is and completed.

[Gondor]

Which book is that as it might explain where the urban myth of the long span K came from. All official documents and publications at the time clearly show and state the K was based on the A, only the C adopted the longer wings of the FB, so would love to know who got their facts wrongand created this headache  (poor Mike MvEvoy was gutted when he brought out at SMW his newly finished K's after sourcing hard to find C kits, for us to show him the actual features of the F-111K  ).

Isn't there a photo of the two F-111K airframes that were built which shows the long wings? They're in the corner of a hangar and the photo is taken from quite high, I've seen it quite recently somewhere.

The picture is floating around somewhere, but I have been reliably informed that the F-111K was not to have extended wings which is why I have an F-111A to convert once I get some drawings from TsrJoe.

Gondor

[Thorvic]

How do the FB-111A lower fuselage sprues differ from the F-111C ones Alastair? I always thought the RAAF C's were based on the FBs anyway.

After a long hard look to compare the two parts I can reasonably safely say that the only differences on the sprue's are the engine intakes with the differences between the Triple Plow version if I remember my nomenclature correctly! 

Gondor

One book I have says the same version of intake was used on the C,D,F and FB so there would be no need if this information is correct, the same book also says that the F-111K had long wings so I am not sure if this is right or not especially as the kit instructions show that the C version has splinter plates and the G dose not!

Which book is that as it might explain where the urban myth of the long span K came from. All official documents and publications at the time clearly show and state the K was based on the A, only the C adopted the longer wings of the FB, so would love to know who got their facts wrongand created this headache  (poor Mike MvEvoy was gutted when he brought out at SMW his newly finished K's after sourcing hard to find C kits, for us to show him the actual features of the F-111K  ).

Yeap and you can clearly see the short F-111A wings  

Check your email Kit and you can read what the F-111K features were and learn something new, as you have also been taken in by the urban myth

[Gondor]

Page 115, BSP, Jet Bombers since 1949.  these were the two UK versions that were put ""On-Hold"" (the reason they were moved to the place in the photo) and then later 'reduced to spares' and used on the F-111A production line.  The wings appear to be the short span ones though. If these were based on F-111A's but were reduced to spares I still haven't found out what the differences were that they just couldn't be placed back into the production line as-is and completed.

There were a couple of differences forward of the cockpit on the F-111K, the in flight refuelling probe which was just forward of the cockpit with, apparently, a rather complex set of doors. The other difference was a set of three strike cameras under the nose forward of the nose wheel. Avionics were also a difference but other than a few modifications to the dashboard I don't know of anything else that is easily viable.

Regards

Gondor

[kitnut617]

Thanks for that    I also seem to remember now someone mentioning that the main u/c gear was the strengthened ones of the FB (I think)

[Gondor]

Thanks for that    I also seem to remember now someone mentioning that the main u/c gear was the strengthened ones of the FB (I think)

That is also correct although if you are using the Hasegawa 1/72 kit you can't tell the difference at lest with the undercarriage.

Gondor

[Gondor]

Decided because of the thread drift earlier today that I would change the title of the topic and include the F-111K build that I also have planned. So it's two builds for the price of one! Probably with the chance of causing even more confusion with regards to what version of the F-111 had what 

Gondor

[PR19_Kit]

Well it's no WONDER the K got cancelled if they insisted on the shorter wings! 

[Gondor]

I was checking parts earlier today for one of the Hasegawa EF-111's that I have, found I had been going to convert that to an F-111K as all the parts for an F-111A are in the box as well as the parts to make an EF which are on a separate sprue. Think I will get another Quickboost F-105 refuelling probe and make the EF-111-A into an EF-111K as well. This is what-If after all 

Gondor

[Gondor]

Add another silly version to the list of possible builds. EF-111B 

This would be an F-111B with the same done to it as was done to the A-6A when it was turned into an EF-6A so using a Hasegawa EF-111A and an F-111B conversion set and bingo you have an EF-111B 

Gondor

[PR19_Kit]

This would be an F-111B with the same done to it as was done to the A-6A when it was turned into an EF-6A so using a Hasegawa EF-111A and an F-111B conversion set and bingo you have an EF-111B 

With FOUR seats?

[Thorvic]

Your thinking EA-6B the Prowler, the EA-6A was a two seater based on the Intruder which prompted the development of the longer Prowler

[Gondor]

Your thinking EA-6B the Prowler, the EA-6A was a two seater based on the Intruder which prompted the development of the longer Prowler

Exactly, and it's the equipment from the EA-6's that was fitted to the F-111 to make the EF-111A anyway so why not a naval version? 

Gondor

oh and Kit, that means it has the longer wings 

[PR19_Kit]

oh and Kit, that means it has the longer wings 

I should think so too! 

[Gondor]

So with deciding to build the EF-111B I will now have a spare F-111A aircraft. Now if I remember correctly there were to be two version of F-111 for the RAF. A Trainer /Strike and a Strike/Reconnaissance version.
This means that I could build one of each version. Build one will be from the F-111A I bought specificity for the task, build 2 will be from an EF-111A with the EF parts applied to the F-111G from the F-111C/G I bought at the Scottish Nationals along with a yet to buy Pete's Hanger F-111B conversion set.

This does mean that I need to buy another F-111C/G set to build my FB-111H and another EF-111A for my Australian EF-111A  

Gondor