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[zenrat]

Found this on FB today:

That give me some ideas.  Of course one solution is to not have a pilot at all.

Would removing the turbo and replacing it with a mechanical supercharger help?

I thought about removing the turbo but IIRC (without consulting a cutaway) it is located directly above the undercarriage bay and so while it would provide some space it would be very shallow.
Removing the turbo and fitting a single fixed (and spatted obviously) undercarriage leg is a possible way forward.

[Dizzyfugu]

Extending the engine nacelles beyond the trailing edge for the landing gear would certainly help with the (assumed tricycle) undercarriage, and I'd consider a bigger fin, too. It's also questionable if the single pair of now-fuselage-mounted radiators would suffice? In a mono-fuselage design their placement does not make much sense anymore, due to all the extra plumbing and the weight associated with it. Something closer to the engines (chin, underwing, or at the end of the nacelles) would IMHO be more plausible.

[zenrat]

That could be the solution!  Move the radiators (or oil coolers or whatever is under the scoops on the sides of the booms) and put the pilot in their place.  That way I can use a single boom with the engine and turbo as originally installed.  Outer wings on either side of the boom.  Single standard undercarriage with outriggers on the wings.

Although I have a feeling the boom is a bit narrow at that point.
I need to get the kit out and have a look.  However, it's dark now.  Maybe tomorrow.

[kerick]

Arctic fighter with a retractable ski? Open up the landing gear bay at least.

[Scotaidh]

That could be the solution!  Move the radiators (or oil coolers or whatever is under the scoops on the sides of the booms) and put the pilot in their place.  That way I can use a single boom with the engine and turbo as originally installed.  Outer wings on either side of the boom.  Single standard undercarriage with outriggers on the wings.

Although I have a feeling the boom is a bit narrow at that point.
I need to get the kit out and have a look.  However, it's dark now.  Maybe tomorrow.

You might want to have the exhaust exit the aircraft somewhere other than the pilot's face, though.

[scooter]

That could be the solution!  Move the radiators (or oil coolers or whatever is under the scoops on the sides of the booms) and put the pilot in their place.  That way I can use a single boom with the engine and turbo as originally installed.  Outer wings on either side of the boom.  Single standard undercarriage with outriggers on the wings.

Although I have a feeling the boom is a bit narrow at that point.
I need to get the kit out and have a look.  However, it's dark now.  Maybe tomorrow.

You might want to have the exhaust exit the aircraft somewhere other than the pilot's face, though.

He'd be warm, at least

[Scotaidh]

General Dynamics (Convair) Model 200 a, a MACH 2 S / vtol aircraft project for the us navy of the 1970s

[NARSES2]

Didn't someone do a kit of that Model 200 back in the day ?

[chrisonord]

I like the look of that, would look good in USMC markings, doing mud moving over Vietnam.
Chris

[PR19_Kit]

Didn't someone do a kit of that Model 200 back in the day ?

I believe you're right Chris, indeed I think the Venerabke Mike McEvoy built one too.

[jcf]

That could be the solution!  Move the radiators (or oil coolers or whatever is under the scoops on the sides of the booms) and put the pilot in their place.  That way I can use a single boom with the engine and turbo as originally installed.  Outer wings on either side of the boom.  Single standard undercarriage with outriggers on the wings.

Although I have a feeling the boom is a bit narrow at that point.
I need to get the kit out and have a look.  However, it's dark now.  Maybe tomorrow.

Radiators in the booms, oil coolers under the engines, the deep-chin models added
an intercooler assembly, on the previous models passages in the leading edge of the
wing were the intercoolers.

[zenrat]

Thanks Jon.

[NARSES2]

Didn't someone do a kit of that Model 200 back in the day ?

I believe you're right Chris, indeed I think the Venerabke Mike McEvoy built one too.

Right I am getting old  It was Anigrand and I built one. My excuse is that, that illustration makes it look a lot slimmer than it is in the resin. 

[Rick Lowe]

Fred, there is a photo somewhere - maybe even here - of a single-boom, single engined P-38 based Drone with fixed landing gear.

I made one as a PR version and it's a pretty easy project. You could use a 2-seater conversion as the control ship...

[zenrat]

Thanks Rick.