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Dizzyfugu

#30
February 08, 2020, 03:28:49 AM Last Edit: February 08, 2020, 03:36:06 AM by Dizzyfugu
Almost anything from the original PM range is IMHO rubbish or at least so basic that the old Matchbox kits shine next to them.

The Sea Fury is a decent kit (it was re-boxed by Airfix, not vice versa) but very simple, as well as the Su-15s or the Ta 183. But the rest...? The F-16 IS a joke (and it's a bad one, even the Intech kit is gold againts it), the Go 229 is a direct insult, as well as the thing PM sells you as a Mirage III, V or an IAI Dagger. The F-5s are a catastrophe (anyone built the Airfix F-5? The PM kit is WORSE) and the F-4 is actually a 1:96 kit, but this is not mentioned on the box...  :rolleyes:.
Re-issuing some decent other molds is not a bad thing, but I guess that jolts of patrotism cut the marketers' connection with reality concerning the price tags?

zenrat

#31
February 08, 2020, 04:36:41 AM
I have experience of their Ta 154 (Airfix re-box).  It's crude and ill fitting.

Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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Spey_Phantom

#32
February 08, 2020, 12:08:02 PM
i have some experience with the PM model kits aswell, but you can turn theyre 1/72 Ta.183 into something good with a little love and care, and the cockpit parts of a revell Fw190  :mellow:
on the bench:

-all kinds of things.

Weaver

#33
February 08, 2020, 12:34:13 PM
The P.1111 is simple but decent and builds up into a nice little model.
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chrisonord

#34
February 08, 2020, 12:45:42 PM
Quote from: Weaver on February 08, 2020, 12:34:13 PM
The P.1111 is simple but decent and builds up into a nice little model.
My Boulton Paul  aircraft I  did is one of the PM models  P1111, very  basic  but  with a bit of forward planning  it could  be made  into something really  nice.  Or if you can't  be ar**d like  me, build it  as is.
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zenrat

#35
February 08, 2020, 10:21:30 PM
Quote from: Nils on February 08, 2020, 12:08:02 PM
i have some experience with the PM model kits aswell, but you can turn theyre 1/72 Ta.183 into something good with a little love and care, and the cockpit parts of a revell Fw190  :mellow:

That's as may be, but it should be something good to start with.  IDK what Airfix were thinking reboxing that one.
Fred

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The Wooksta!

#36
February 09, 2020, 04:40:31 AM
Lets be honest here.  PM's Luftwaffe 46 stuff is a bit hit and miss, yeah, but the ones that seem to be coming for some flak - the Ho 229 and the Ta 154 - were the only injection kits of the types for at least a decade, if not more.  The 229 seems to be a copy of the old Airmodel vacform and I've seen some superb examples built from the PM kit.  Even the Ta 154 is workable - I've done it twice.  The Ta 183 is still a pretty decent kit if a tad basic.

As for Airfix...  That was the dog end of the Humbrol administration and they were known for their cost cutting.
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Nick

#37
February 12, 2020, 09:04:50 AM
So what happened to PM Models?

I heard that the owner died and his widow refused to carry on the company or to sell the moulds. Did they get a very good offer?

kitnut617

#38
February 12, 2020, 11:45:35 AM
Quote from: zenrat on February 08, 2020, 10:21:30 PM
Quote from: Nils on February 08, 2020, 12:08:02 PM
i have some experience with the PM model kits aswell, but you can turn theyre 1/72 Ta.183 into something good with a little love and care, and the cockpit parts of a revell Fw190  :mellow:

That's as may be, but it should be something good to start with.  IDK what Airfix were thinking reboxing that one.

Airfix reboxed the Ta.183, I didn't know that. Knew about the Sea Fury though.

This was my effort at their Ta.183, seems I did what others had done, used cockpit detail from an Fw 190. I also used a bit of brass tube for the exhaust pipe.

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kitbasher

#39
February 12, 2020, 02:35:49 PM
Typo I think.  The 183, no; the 154 yes -  as a Mistel pairing with the old school FW190A
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#40
February 12, 2020, 06:03:25 PM
The Ta 183 ended up in a Revell box for a time.
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NARSES2

#41
February 13, 2020, 05:56:36 AM
Quote from: Nick on February 12, 2020, 09:04:50 AM
So what happened to PM Models?

I heard that the owner died and his widow refused to carry on the company or to sell the moulds. Did they get a very good offer?

That's what I'd heard as well, but it was now't more than rumour.
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Martin H

#42
February 13, 2020, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 08, 2020, 02:38:08 AM
An Italeri F-35 is about HALF that price!  :o

I just bought one last week.
I could be wrong. But ive heard they are the same kit?
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#43
February 14, 2020, 06:01:16 AM
Quote from: Martin H on February 13, 2020, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 08, 2020, 02:38:08 AM
An Italeri F-35 is about HALF that price!  :o

I just bought one last week.
I could be wrong. But ive heard they are the same kit?

You heard correctly. Just has Turkish AF markings

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PM601?result-token=vs5TQ
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kitnut617

#44
February 14, 2020, 06:49:43 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on February 14, 2020, 06:01:16 AM
Quote from: Martin H on February 13, 2020, 02:30:54 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on February 08, 2020, 02:38:08 AM
An Italeri F-35 is about HALF that price!  :o

I just bought one last week.
I could be wrong. But ive heard they are the same kit?

You heard correctly. Just has Turkish AF markings

https://www.hannants.co.uk/product/PM601?result-token=vs5TQ

Well that's a whiff-in-a-box right there, Turkey isn't getting them now --- The USA has pulled the plug on the deal.
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