Micro-Mir

[chrisonord]

Reading from Wikipedia, the AW52 was only a half scale version. The planned airliner / bomber version was to be twice the size. Sounds like it's ideal for a Scale-o-rama build with a smaller canopy and roundels.

Or keep it 1/72nd scale  and put some fireflash missiles on it, or  some  rockets  under the wings.
Chris

[PR19_Kit]

Reading from Wikipedia, the AW52 was only a half scale version. The planned airliner / bomber version was to be twice the size. Sounds like it's ideal for a Scale-o-rama build with a smaller canopy and roundels.

Exactly, which is why I suggested it earlier.

An airliner version would be good, the projected AW55, but where the devil would you put the windows? Maybe all along the leading edge?

That's what concerns me about the current rash of 'All Wing' airliner projects, I bet there'd be a lot of initial resistance from the pax, even though most of them don't, and can't, look out of the windows in the current aircraft.

[Mossie]

Here's the full scale bomber, the AW.56:
http://duhraviationart.com/index.php/portfolio/armstrong-whitworth-aw-56/

The artwork is from the cover of the second volume of BSP.2.

[chrisonord]

I like the look of that  AW.56 , it would make a  perfect addition to my  alternative RAF 

[jcf]

1/350 Kawanishi KX-03.
464mm wingspan.





https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/threads/kawanishi-kx-03-giant-500-ton-flying-boat.17775/#post-131910

https://plastic-models-store.com/Mikro-Mir-350-040---1-350---Kawanishi-KX-03-Japan-flying-boat-project-466mm-13581.html

[chrisonord]

I have seen a couple of pictures of this on Facebook, but they  don't show as much  detail  and a comparison as to how big the  thing  would have been.

[Weaver]

An airliner version would be good, the projected AW55, but where the devil would you put the windows? Maybe all along the leading edge?

That's what concerns me about the current rash of 'All Wing' airliner projects, I bet there'd be a lot of initial resistance from the pax, even though most of them don't, and can't, look out of the windows in the current aircraft.

That's been cited as one of the stumbling blocks in the real projects (both Boeing and Airbus have looked at it) along with emergency evacuation: not much wall space for doors as well as windows. Floor hatches would be blocked if the unercarriage collapsed, and roof hatches present a more convoluted route to safety than conventional side-doors.

My idea for the windows is to make the areas next to them communal rather than have windows 'belong' to a particular seat. Cabin staff could keep an eye out to make sure nobody hogs them for too long.

[zenrat]

An airliner version would be good, the projected AW55, but where the devil would you put the windows? Maybe all along the leading edge?

That's what concerns me about the current rash of 'All Wing' airliner projects, I bet there'd be a lot of initial resistance from the pax, even though most of them don't, and can't, look out of the windows in the current aircraft.

That's been cited as one of the stumbling blocks in the real projects (both Boeing and Airbus have looked at it) along with emergency evacuation: not much wall space for doors as well as windows. Floor hatches would be blocked if the unercarriage collapsed, and roof hatches present a more convoluted route to safety than conventional side-doors.

My idea for the windows is to make the areas next to them communal rather than have windows 'belong' to a particular seat. Cabin staff could keep an eye out to make sure nobody hogs them for too long.

Bang seats.  One for every passenger.  Imagine the sight as 300 passengers eject in a wave synchronised from rear to front.  Glorious.

[scooter]

An airliner version would be good, the projected AW55, but where the devil would you put the windows? Maybe all along the leading edge?

That's what concerns me about the current rash of 'All Wing' airliner projects, I bet there'd be a lot of initial resistance from the pax, even though most of them don't, and can't, look out of the windows in the current aircraft.

That's been cited as one of the stumbling blocks in the real projects (both Boeing and Airbus have looked at it) along with emergency evacuation: not much wall space for doors as well as windows. Floor hatches would be blocked if the unercarriage collapsed, and roof hatches present a more convoluted route to safety than conventional side-doors.

My idea for the windows is to make the areas next to them communal rather than have windows 'belong' to a particular seat. Cabin staff could keep an eye out to make sure nobody hogs them for too long.

Bang seats.  One for every passenger.  Imagine the sight as 300 passengers eject in a wave synchronised from rear to front.  Glorious.

And the No Frills airlines, like Spirit and Ryan Air, would charge extra for parachutes.

[PR19_Kit]

My idea for the windows is to make the areas next to them communal rather than have windows 'belong' to a particular seat. Cabin staff could keep an eye out to make sure nobody hogs them for too long.

Amtrak do that for their Sightseer Lounge cars, the ones with the windows that go right over your head.

The Steward comes by and reminds you that you're only meant to use each seat for 30 mins or so. But for some reason Brits get a 'no limits' pass as every time I answered with an 'Oh sorry, I'll head on back to my seat' they always said 'Oh, that's OK for you Sir, stay as long as you like'.

RESULT! 

[PR19_Kit]

As for the KX-03, shrinking it down to 1/350th smacks a bit of 'fit the box' all over again.

If it's going to be a model of a BIG aeroplane, make it a BIG kit!

[Rheged]

An airliner version would be good, the projected AW55, but where the devil would you put the windows? Maybe all along the leading edge?

That's what concerns me about the current rash of 'All Wing' airliner projects, I bet there'd be a lot of initial resistance from the pax, even though most of them don't, and can't, look out of the windows in the current aircraft.

That's been cited as one of the stumbling blocks in the real projects (both Boeing and Airbus have looked at it) along with emergency evacuation: not much wall space for doors as well as windows. Floor hatches would be blocked if the unercarriage collapsed, and roof hatches present a more convoluted route to safety than conventional side-doors.

My idea for the windows is to make the areas next to them communal rather than have windows 'belong' to a particular seat. Cabin staff could keep an eye out to make sure nobody hogs them for too long.

Bang seats.  One for every passenger.  Imagine the sight as 300 passengers eject in a wave synchronised from rear to front.  Glorious.

Messers Martin and Baker would no doubt be happy to develop a ripple ejection system for this purpose..............a sort of Mexican Wave of seats hurtling into the air; no doubt with a better quality of parachute for those in First or Business Class.  The mechanics of it would be "interesting", as they'd have to shoot upwards in a fan-like way to prevent collisions between seats in mid air. 

Just imagine someone pressing the wrong button whilst waiting at the end of one of  Heathrow's runways............passengers landing everywhere from Hillingdon to Harringay, depending on wind speed.

[jcf]

As for the KX-03, shrinking it down to 1/350th smacks a bit of 'fit the box' all over again.

If it's going to be a model of a BIG aeroplane, make it a BIG kit!

Winspan is 18", a 1/144 kit would have a wingspan of 1.25 m/49". 

Doing it that size would require the A-Monster or HPH approach using GRP
for the fuselage and wings with injection moulding or resin for the smaller
parts all of which equals many $£€.

1/350th makes it perfgect to go with ship models.

[PR19_Kit]

Yeah, 49" sounds about right. 98" sounds even better....

I've built flying models a LOT smaller than that........

[elmayerle]

Reading from Wikipedia, the AW52 was only a half scale version. The planned airliner / bomber version was to be twice the size. Sounds like it's ideal for a Scale-o-rama build with a smaller canopy and roundels.

Exactly, which is why I suggested it earlier.

An airliner version would be good, the projected AW55, but where the devil would you put the windows? Maybe all along the leading edge?

That's what concerns me about the current rash of 'All Wing' airliner projects, I bet there'd be a lot of initial resistance from the pax, even though most of them don't, and can't, look out of the windows in the current aircraft.

Shades of the proposed airliner version of the original Norhtrop wing.  That primarily had windows in the leading edge though ISTR a bubble canopy over the lounge in the "stinger".