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Micro-Mir

Started by Weaver, October 15, 2013, 12:31:29 PM

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jcf

One of the biggest issues with a BWB/flying wing design is pressurization, manufacturing and
derivative development, all of which are easily accomplished with a "tube" fuselage that is parallel
sided with a constant cross-section for most of its length which means repeatable components,
and easy pressurization. The BWB and flying wing concepts have none of those features which
greatly increases costs across the board.

The Flying V design, originally that of a young Dutch engineering student, that
Airbus is now investigating goes a long way towards addressing many of those
issues. The passenger compartments are constant section elliptical tubes that fit
within the constant section airfoil "wing".

Justus Benad's 2015 paper, as to be expected details have changed as it's been
further developed:
https://www.dglr.de/publikationen/2015/370094.pdf

The page for the TUDelft development team:
https://www.tudelft.nl/en/ae/flying-v/

The tech page:
https://www.tudelft.nl/en/ae/flying-v/technology/




jcf

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 08, 2020, 03:14:03 PM
Yeah, 49" sounds about right. 98" sounds even better.... ;D ;D ;D

I've built flying models a LOT smaller than that........

;D ;D ;D
You'd be willing to spend the £1,000 or so for a 1/72 kit?  ;)

PR19_Kit

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on November 08, 2020, 09:48:07 PM

;D ;D ;D
You'd be willing to spend the £1,000 or so for a 1/72 kit?  ;)


Well no, but I bet SOMEONE would. I can think of a few IPMS-UK members who'd fork out that sort of money just to say they had got one!  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Martin H

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 09, 2020, 03:51:23 AM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on November 08, 2020, 09:48:07 PM

;D ;D ;D
You'd be willing to spend the £1,000 or so for a 1/72 kit?  ;)


Well no, but I bet SOMEONE would. I can think of a few IPMS-UK members who'd fork out that sort of money just to say they had got one!  :o

Now, why do I get the feeling you were looking in my direction when you said that Spackman.  ;D ;) ;D

And no I wouldnt shell out that sort of cash for a model either.
I always hope for the best.
Unfortunately,
experience has taught me to expect the worst.

Size (of the stash) matters.

IPMS (UK) What if? SIG Leader.
IPMS (UK) Project Cancelled SIG Member.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Martin H on November 09, 2020, 02:51:10 PM

Now, why do I get the feeling you were looking in my direction when you said that Spackman.  ;D ;) ;D

And no I wouldnt shell out that sort of cash for a model either.


Actually I wasn't OGL, but now that you mention it........................  ;D ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

jcf

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 02, 2020, 09:01:59 AM

An airliner version would be good, the projected AW55, but where the devil would you put the windows? Maybe all along the leading edge?

AW55 was the Apollo.




PR19_Kit

But there was a previous 'AW55' design, which was an all wing aircraft. They re-used the AW55 number for the Apollo after the wing designs all got cancelled.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

jcf

#157
Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 10, 2020, 02:15:39 PM
But there was a previous 'AW55' design, which was an all wing aircraft. They re-used the AW55 number for the Apollo after the wing designs all got cancelled.

Was that in place of an all-wing airliner develoopment of the AW50 which was the predecessor
of the AW52?

None of the post-war 'speculative' flying projects that appeared in small photos or magazine
adverts received type numbers. Personally I've not seen any documentation that A.W. 55 was
ever officially assigned to anything other than the Apollo.

PR19_Kit

It was mentioned in a Flying Review Magazine article a long time ago. They specially mentioned that it was odd that AW re-used the type number.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

chrisonord

Micro mir have released  3 d pictures of an L 13 zeppelin in 1/144th scale.
The dogs philosophy on life.
If you cant eat it hump it or fight it,
Pee on it and walk away!!

63cpe

Ow, yeaah. I like the AW Apollo. Also like the Aviation Traders Accountant as other obscure (transport) planes.

David aka 63cpe

Dizzyfugu

For the fans of some really exotic concepts: Micro-Mir will release in Jan. '21 an 1:72 Piaggio Pegna P.C.7 - a (not successful) mix of an aircraft and a hydrofoil boat:




PR19_Kit

#162
Oh YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!  :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

My kind of aeroplane! I tried to build one from a Macchi MC72 but failed. Now I can do it properly.

The only vehicle that might have been capable of breaking the World Air Speed Record and the World Water Speed Record AT THE SAME TIME!  ;D

[Later] For the first time in my life I put a kit on backorder at the Big H...  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

zenrat

So many possibilities.  Including a submersible version...

Quote from: chrisonord on November 23, 2020, 12:52:29 PM
Micro mir have released  3 d pictures of an L 13 zeppelin in 1/144th scale.

I make that over a metre long.  Cool.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

ericr


what a beauty !

long love seaplanes !