No Whiff railway modellers.

[Librarian]

Trains ? Excellent idea ! I've thought about doing a jet powered one. Some day....

I'm afraid it's been done in the real world more than once.

Not only did I spend 6-7 years working on a gas turbine powered train in the '70s but the New York Central line fitted an ex-B-47 twin engine pod onto the roof of a Budd RDC car in 1966 and persuaded it to reach 184 mph!

Is that Reynolds, Biggs and co. jumping for cover ?

[Rheged]

Will this count as railwhiffery?

http://www.fictitiousliveries.co.uk/

I rather like the GNER  A 4 Pacific.........just scroll down a while.

[Nick]

I have long thought about plans for Evening Star 92220 (Dapol kit) in BR colours....
I have the BR Blue and BR Yellow paints, BR markings, the kit is built, it's just getting the paint right on the running gear that is worrying me. Needs to be dirty black and shiny metal at the same time....

http://www.fictitiousliveries.co.uk/photo.php?S_9F_brb.jpg
http://www.fictitiousliveries.co.uk/photo.php?S_9F_LLB.jpg

I did do a Japanese Bullet Train in British Rail colours once, the die cast model is somewhere in the stash. If I find it I'll take some photos.

[sandiego89]

OK, I admit to doing one rail WHIF- Rhodesian Combat Support train.  Up-armored to resupply helos and vehicles out in the bush.





From the Africa GB, full link: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,32265.0/highlight,combat+support+train.html

[sandiego89]

Not only did I spend 6-7 years working on a gas turbine powered train in the '70s

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Kit, what project was was that? Was it turbine/electric, or direct power?  Fuel consumption must have been up there.

-Dave

[PR19_Kit]

Will this count as railwhiffery?

http://www.fictitiousliveries.co.uk/

I rather like the GNER  A 4 Pacific.........just scroll down a while.

That's a superb page of stuff, and it's grown a lot since I looked at it last. Of course the APT schemes are my faves but I wish he'd have used a different scource photo for the APT-E scheme. That one was taken when it was at its worst in late 1999.

Kit, what project was was that? Was it turbine/electric, or direct power?  Fuel consumption must have been up there.

-Dave

That was the gas turbine/electric APT-E.

I had the privilage of being the Develeopment Engineer on the Tilt System for that train, and for some of the following test vehicles for the APT-P too. Fuel consumption on the E-Train which had TEN Leyland truck turbines was worse at idle than it was at full power and it was so bad that we couldn't get from Derby to London and back on one tank full...... 

[sandiego89]

Will this count as railwhiffery?

http://www.fictitiousliveries.co.uk/

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  Fuel consumption must have been up there.

That was the gas turbine/electric APT-E.

I had the privilage of being the Develeopment Engineer on the Tilt System for that train, and for some of the following test vehicles for the APT-P too. Fuel consumption on the E-Train which had TEN Leyland truck turbines was worse at idle than it was at full power and it was so bad that we couldn't get from Derby to London and back on one tank full...... 

Well despite the fuel consumption- I bet it sounded incredible!     

[The Rat]

I've had a railway whiff in mind for a few years, posted about it a while ago: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,27292.0/highlight,pantograph.html  Since the subject has been revived, here's the idea: I was looking at the old Airfix Short Stirling up in the attic, built about 40 years ago, and thinking that the fuselage looked rather like it could be adapted to be an electric train. So after the war British Rail purchased a lot of surplus fuselages and converted them. My fear is trying to build that pantograph on the top, I'm sure to stuff it up six ways from Sunday! 

[PR19_Kit]

Well despite the fuel consumption- I bet it sounded incredible!     

I stood on the platform at Didcot during the middle weekend of our High Speed trials and the train went past me at 150 mph almost exactly that day. It sounded just like a 707 getting out of Heathrow at full throttle. 

You should be able to buy a ready made spare pantograph in OO scale from Hornby or someone similar Mr. Rat and that's close enough to 1/72 for your Railway Stirling.

[tigercat]

look on evilbay for spares and repairs  electric engines you might be able to snap one up cheap to cannabilise

Flip it on it's head and you could ad dwings to a train make yourself a Deltic Dakota or something similar in the transport range

[PR19_Kit]

Well despite the fuel consumption- I bet it sounded incredible!    

I stood on the platform at Didcot during the middle weekend of our High Speed trials and the train went past me at 150 mph almost exactly that day. It sounded just like a 707 getting out of Heathrow at full throttle.  

I knew I had a piccie of that somewhere, here it is. I was shooting at 1/750 second and it wasn't a focal plane shutter so it's a tad blurred.

[Rheged]

1/750 th and still not pin-sharp.  That's going some!..... and I assume that the whole earth shook as it thundered by.

[PR19_Kit]

1/750 th and still not pin-sharp.  That's going some!..... and I assume that the whole earth shook as it thundered by.

Actually no, only the sound was 'shaking' as it was almost unheard of for a train to sound like that in the UK. APT-E rode very smoothly, even at 152.3, the fastest speed we managed during the High Speed tests. It didn't weigh very much compared to normal railway vehicles, the two trailer cars were pretty much BAC 1-11 fuselages with big windows, and they were even built by English Electric alongside the Lightning production line. 

I checked with the train crew on that run later and they just reached 150 mph as they passed me on the platform, so that was pretty pleasing.

[Dizzyfugu]

IIRC, there are/were some Ma.K train designs, in the early publications in Hobby Japan - I remember a steam locomotive, inspired by Raymond Loewy's designs and... Yakult bottles. Could not find a pic, though - must have been huge at 1:20 scale, and had been part of a transport diorama scene.

[Hobbes]

Trains ? Excellent idea ! I've thought about doing a jet powered one. Some day....

I'm afraid it's been done in the real world more than once.

Not only did I spend 6-7 years working on a gas turbine powered train in the '70s but the New York Central line fitted an ex-B-47 twin engine pod onto the roof of a Budd RDC car in 1966 and persuaded it to reach 184 mph!

Speaking of which, I just came across a nice article on this train:
http://www.gereports.com/post/91355522740/building-a-jet-propelled-train-was-not-rocket-science

video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBBQL5x3-34