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Su-15MV Soviet Aggressor - FINISHED

Started by Weaver, May 12, 2014, 05:52:14 AM

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NARSES2

Quote from: Thorvic on June 07, 2014, 02:04:31 AM
Wow thats looking really good now its painted, that shot looking from the aft qtr showing the tan side of the long nose also made me think of the Thunderchief as well as the Phantom  :thumbsup:.


Very much reminds me of a Thunderchief
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Logan Hartke

Indeed, it looks very nice with the SEA camo (as most things do).

Cheers,

Logan

NARSES2

Quote from: Logan Hartke on June 07, 2014, 10:22:06 AM
Indeed, it looks very nice with the SEA camo (as most things do).

Cheers,

Logan

Indeed it is "one of those camo schemes" as is the RAF SEAC one and that was SE Asia as well. Must be the water ?  ;D
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Weaver

Progress is being made on this, but very slow. Serious case of stuck mojo last week. Got up full of resolution yesterday... then spent all day replacing a leaking tap. Today: toothache..... :banghead:

Nevertheless, touch-up painting has now been done. Gloss coat tomorrow, then decals.
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Weaver

Hmm - NEVER publish a schedule: freakin' fatal.......... :banghead: :rolleyes:

Decalling is now under way and going well. :thumbsup:
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Captain Canada

Oh wow...now this is something ! Always loved the look of that aeroplane....so tough yet somehow, elegant ? Well, maybe that's pushing it but there's just something about that shape. Looks awesome in your camo scheme. Can't wait to see what "more work" will bring !

:cheers:
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Weaver

Weeeell, the decalling was going well while I stuck firmly to the miscellaneous collection of aftermarket stuff and 10 year old leftover I was using. Then I started using the brand new ones that came with the kit.... :banghead:

1. most of the stencilling and warning notices are too big, and many don't fit where they're supposed to,

2. the red notices are a brilliant orangy bright red that outshines the low-vis red stars I was so pleased with myself for having found (MiG-37 Ferret),

3. the decals are very thin, but have very strong and fast-setting adhesive, which means they easily wrap around or tuck under and then can't be sorted out before they dry.

Nice to know that all the Trumpeter bits of this build are up to a consistent standard...... :rolleyes:
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 - Indiana Jones

Weaver

Still decalling......... I keep getting eye strain and having to stop and there are so many freakin' stencils....
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 - Indiana Jones

Weaver

Just found ANOTHER couple of errors:

1. There are seven identical small warning signs down each side of the lower fuselage. Guess how many there are on the decal sheet? Thirteen........ :banghead:

2. There's a similar but different warning sign on the underside that doesn't have a numbered arrow pointing to it on the paint/decal artwork. Since this artwork is too small and indistinct for placing these things and since the sign is yellow on silver, it's very easy to miss it.

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 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

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 - Indiana Jones

Weaver

Yay - decalling as done as it's ever going to be. :thumbsup:

Now some sleep and then time for the dangly bits (u/c and stores!!!!)
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kitbasher

Quote from: Weaver on June 07, 2014, 01:54:41 AM





Picture caught my eye as I noticed the F-4C instructions in the background.  I've the remnants of an old Airfix F-4 in the scrap box and I've been toying with the idea of grafting the front end of it into a cheapo PM Flagon.  Does anyone know how close the fuselage diameters of the real F-4 and the real Flagon are, please, so I can finally decide whether to take a Quixotic tilt at this particular modeling windmill or consign the idea to the dustbin of seemingly good but actually bad ideas?
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PR19_Kit

Quote from: kitbasher on June 29, 2014, 03:19:09 AM
Does anyone know how close the fuselage diameters of the real F-4 and the real Flagon are, please, so I can finally decide whether to take a Quixotic tilt at this particular modeling windmill or consign the idea to the dustbin of seemingly good but actually bad ideas?

They don't match that well Dave. The PM Flagon measures 18 mm wide at the cockpit and 28 mm wide across the intakes, whereas a Fujimi Phantom F3 measures 21 mm across the cockpit and 37 mm across the intakes.

It could mean a LOT of styrene packing pieces and a mega PSR session.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
Kit

Weaver

I concur. The Trumpy Flagon is slightly different to the PM one, but if anything it's smaller and thereby even less helpful. The Flagon is actually a lot slimmer than it looks in the cockpit area: the nose cone is very heavily bulged, and I think that creates some kind of optical illusion.

Height-wise, the Phantom is also much deeper at the rear cockpit bulkhead becuase the seats are stepped whereas the Flagon's arn't. Comparing the PM Flagon and Airfix Phantom at the intake step (i.e. the one moulded into the fuselage), the Flagon is 19mm deep whereas the Phantom is 27mm.
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 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

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 - Indiana Jones

kitbasher

Thank you gentlemen.  Idea consigned to the dustbin of seemingly good but actually bad ideas.

I think my Su-15 itch will have to be scratched by a take on Dizzyfugu's Hawker Harpy.
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Weaver

IT'S FREAKIN' FINISHED!!!!!

Well, to the point where I can photograph it tomorrow and write it up, anyway. Might do a few tweaks after that...
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones