Tank Overhaul- Porsche Ferdinand/Elefant

[scooter]

Tank Overhaul s2/e3- Elefant

Don't know if this ever got posted- The US Army Ordnance Museum restores and preps one of the 2 remaining Sd. Kfz. 184 Elefants for display.  The Museum has since moved to Ft Lee, Va.  I would have loved to have seen the HETT carrying the Ferdi on the way to Petersburg.  My only argument with the episode is that they compare the Ferdinand with the M-109 Paladin.  They have two completely different roles.

[lancer]

Scooter, we get the same with programmes dealing with military and military history! A programme about one thing i.e Mosquito and they cut in footage of a Spitfire/ME109/P51/B17 etc... These idiots whi put thease programmes togethere have no idea about the subject and could care less about it anyway. Makes me mad as hell. I see that they do the same thing on your side of the pond as well....

[rickshaw]

Thing is, TV is well, a visual medium.  They have only so much film of a given subject and it's usually not enough to fill up 50 minutes of TV so they reach for the drawer of old films and throw in what ever they can find.  Of course it's lazy and it should be criticised but it's understandable.  Afterall, the youth of today usually can't tell a C-130 from a C-47 or a Lancaster from a He-177.   Nor do they largely care.  Downunder, they are usually a little more careful but even here they sometimes substitute something for another if they feel they can get away with it.  Most of our docos are made by enthusiasts who feel they need to be faithful to their subjects, we don't get that many docos made by network drones.  The networks prefer to buy their stuff ready made rather than make it themselves (it's cheaper of course).   

Gallipoli is a good case in point.  Only so much film exists of Gallipoli and a lot of what they do use actually comes from a recreation done in the 1920s.  Most people can't spot the difference.  One thing they've recently been doing is using computers to turn still, flat photos into a semi-3d effect, and as there is much more still photography it works, particularly when you have, as they often do, an actor supplying a voice-over, usually reading from a digger's letter home to his family.  Again, using computers, they pan in and out and across the photo, so there is a semblance of movement.  I'm waiting to see the technique used for post-WWI stuff but it hasn't been as far as I can see been done yet.

As the first port of call for most Australian doco makers is the Australian War Memorial which has a massive collection of film, artefacts, etc. with a professional staff, they usually get steered right on technical matters and what films are correct to use for a particular story.

[NARSES2]

Gallipoli is a good case in point.  Only so much film exists of Gallipoli and a lot of what they do use actually comes from a recreation done in the 1920s. 

There was a British film "Tell England" made in 1931 is that the same one ?

[rickshaw]

Gallipoli is a good case in point.  Only so much film exists of Gallipoli and a lot of what they do use actually comes from a recreation done in the 1920s. 

There was a British film "Tell England" made in 1931 is that the same one ?

Not that I'm aware of.  The one I'm referring to was done in Australia with the Army and Navy's help.

[NARSES2]

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