Army Air Corp. Camouflage

[TallEng]

Originally I think.. The Army Air Corp. Helicopters like the scout, skeeter etc we're painted in wrap around green and brown, can anybody tell me roughly when they changed to green and black?

Thanks
Keith

[Aircav]

It was the early to mid 1970's when they changed to the Black and Green camo on the Scouts, they went onto the smaller roundels to start with on the Brown and Green first then swapped the Brown for Black. The Skeeters and Sioux stayed in the Green and Brown.
Steve

[TallEng]

Thanks Steve, so it's entirely possible that a first generation Harrier entering service with the
A.A.C. Would have been in Overall Dark green/Brown camouflage ?
Cracking

Regards
Keith

[TsrJoe]

a neat idea, iv always visualised a productionised P.1127 or Kestrel in the Dk. Green/Dk. Earth, AAC. scheme with standard roundels etc. a'la their Beaver etc. (might also work with light grey unders too to counter dark shadows ?) an 'idealised AAC. of the period might also include types such as the Shorts Skyvan (see Sultan of Oman Air Force !), as well as the Lynx and Gazelle in the earlier schemes (the latter two appearing as prototypes in these colours)

cheers, Joe 

[Aircav]

I did do a AAC Blue Eagles Skyvan a few years ago, sadly no longer with us, but I do plan on building another as well as a Green and Brown version too.



ps, The Lynx did look very nice in the Green and Brown camo.  :-)

[TallEng]

So at the risk of being accused of thread drift.... (it's my thread and I'll drift it if I want )
I was looking in my AIRfile book on the first generation Harriers ( ostensibly for possible AAC load outs )
When I saw a Harrier with a small radome and Martels and I thought what a splendid idea for
An earlier deployment of the Harrier aboard the RN's smaller carriers as fleet protection (Martels for ships/Subs and an early sidewinder for Aircraft?) or aboard H.M.S Bulwark or Albion when they where converted to Commando carriers, as CAS for the Royal Marines. I suppose they could even be flown/ belong to the Marines? oh bother I can see I "need" a couple more early Harriers...... 

Regards
Keith

[Aircav]

Both the AAC and RM Harrier ideas are good especially as at the time you are doing them for the RAF didn't like staying out with the Army over night, I remember my Father telling me that trying to get the RAF Belvederes to fly below 1000ft in Malaya was nigh on impossible. I know most of the RM pilots to start with were AAC until the got their own trained. AAC and RM Hawks maybe a good idea too for 1980's onwards. 
P1127 with wing pylons.


All the best
Steve

[Aircav]

PS, You could do a Harrier GR Mk1 as AAC and a Mk3 as Royal Marines or even a Sea Harrier for CAS and Battlefield/Landing area CAP. 

[DarrenP]

possibly something like that

[Aircav]

Hi Darren,
I've posted my reply in the link below, didn't want to highjack Kieths thread anymore than I have. 
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,7152.new.html#new
All the best
Steve