NöNö Bärs Spaceport (Completed: Asteroid Base)

[zenrat]

 

[NARSES2]

Glad you posed the coin next to it so we can see the size 

[nönöbär]

I am currently in the process of making deck 2 (storage and hnagar) with the 3D program and I come to the conclusion that it simply does not fit what was made in the original drawing.

This deck should have:

- Landing legs (12)
- Guns
- Flying Tanks
- Smaller Space Fighters
- Hangar doors

The original drawing only shows one landing leg (and this one with an angle of I would say 45 degrees - on other drawings of this kind of ship the langing legs are about 25-30 degrees only). Now put 12 of them in this deck and there is simply no room for anything else. I tested it with the 3D program and then the deck was "full". So i think i have to reduce the number of landing legs to find some space to add some guns.

I already mentioned the flying tanks, in the drawing, they are by far too small. I 3D printed one in the right dimension and then you see that you never get so many of them in there.
And I have no idea, how the space fighters and hangar doors should fit in there, there is simply no space for them. I guess the only option would be to have tha hangar door in the part that is missing because of the cut-out.

So I printed a test model in the final size which is part of the complete Kaulquappe having a section of deck 1 and deck 2 with a landing gear in it.




The flying tank is put in there, sizes do fit. The red marked area is the helper structure that was printed between deck 1 and deck 2, otherwise deck 2 cannot be printed. Removal of this would be very difficult in the complete ship, therefore I will print the ship deck by deck to so that no helper structure must be printed (or a least, much less of them)

[NARSES2]

I'm just wondering what this technology will be capable of in 10 years time ?

[scooter]

I'm just wondering what this technology will be capable of in 10 years time ?

The original drawing only shows one landing leg (and this one with an angle of I would say 45 degrees - on other drawings of this kind of ship the langing legs are about 25-30 degrees only). Now put 12 of them in this deck and there is simply no room for anything else. I tested it with the 3D program and then the deck was "full". So i think i have to reduce the number of landing legs to find some space to add some guns.
And I have no idea, how the space fighters and hangar doors should fit in there, there is simply no space for them. I guess the only option would be to have tha hangar door in the part that is missing because of the cut-out.

And you've just learned what happens when non-engineers design spaceships.

[zenrat]

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The original drawing only shows one landing leg (and this one with an angle of I would say 45 degrees - on other drawings of this kind of ship the langing legs are about 25-30 degrees only). Now put 12 of them in this deck and there is simply no room for anything else. I tested it with the 3D program and then the deck was "full". So i think i have to reduce the number of landing legs to find some space to add some guns.
And I have no idea, how the space fighters and hangar doors should fit in there, there is simply no space for them. I guess the only option would be to have tha hangar door in the part that is missing because of the cut-out.

And you've just learned what happens when non-engineers design spaceships.
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Somewhere out there on the interweb is a website(for which I lost the link) which devotes itself to working out the interior layout of the Millennium Falcon.  This appears to have been a mammoth task as it seems that when Star Wars was being made the model makers and the set designers didn't necessarily work together.

[nönöbär]

For the landing legs, I will go for a reduced mumber. This is the only thing that makes sense.

So there is snapshot of the 3D design, currently working on deck 2, adding the landing legs:



Besides this, I made a quick print of deck 5 (0.2mm layer hights), but in correct scale 1:500. To have something to make some painting tests:




Of course, I will only paint what will later visible from the outside. However, the colour of th outer hull is a bit a problem. According to the series, later ships had a pink-violett-red kind of hull. Which looks awful to me. As I will building one of the early ships, I guess I go for something metalic-grayish like style.

[NARSES2]

  That's the nearest thing we have to a gobsmacked emoji 

[nönöbär]

Nothing printed this time, but construction of decks 1 and 2 are now done.

I have reduced the number of landing legs and the number of guns, it simply does not fit with the numbers that were given at the drawing.

Next things to design are the engines in the torus, this was the part I skipped so far.



However, I still have to see if this is prinable at all.

[nönöbär]

A final testprint of the complete model in half scale. Printing took about 13 hours. If printed in full scale (1/500 scale), printeing time is just over two days.

On the pics, the helper structures are visible. This one was printed with the opening pointing upwards.


As this is quite tricky to paint, the "real" cmodel will be printed deck by deck, reducing the required helper structures and allowing an easier acces to paint it.


The helper structures will be removed next.

[NARSES2]

Fascinating, but 2 days to print ? I had no idea

[nönöbär]

Fascinating, but 2 days to print ? I had no idea

3D printing is not fast... This another reason why I will print the real model deck-by-deck. The total print time will be the same, but at least you have single prints which will take about 10-14 hours.

[NARSES2]

You obviously trust your printer to work whilst you are not in attendance. Not sure I could, but then I'm getting old 

[nönöbär]

You obviously trust your printer to work whilst you are not in attendance. Not sure I could, but then I'm getting old 

Well, running any kind of machine for a long time without any supervision is not the best idea. So I modified my printing setup a bit:



The printer is now controlled by an Raspberry Pi running with Octoprint. Seen on (1) on the pic. Additionally I have temperatrue senesors added (2), without remote control currently. And then the printing area is observed with some cameras (3), however the most important one is the Raspberry cam directly added to the controlling Pi.

Btw, all the orange parts are printed. When operationg, there is a cover over the printer, I just removed it for exchanging filament or make a photo like this.

With the Octoprint, i can check the printing process everywhere around my wifi area. And the power of the printer is controlled with a wifi plug, so in case of emergency, i can shut everything down remotly.

[NARSES2]

I'm even more impressed now, both with your ability and your sensibleness