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Something else i've been working on .

Started by Wardukw, August 09, 2014, 07:53:23 PM

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zenrat

Rabbit Season.

Thanks for the answer Wardukw.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Old Wombat

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veritas ad mortus veritas est

Wardukw

Zeanrat ,,, Your welcome mate .. anytime  :smiley:

Guy ,,, Not if i can bloody help it ...time to get the cammies out i think  :lol:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

nighthunter

"Mind that bus." "What bus?" *SPLAT!*

kerick

Let's see someone put their finger in the end of that gun and have it blow up in Elmer Fudd's face!
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

The Chaos

Interesting concept. However, it would make more sense to take a larger chassis for example, 2 baths E100 and the Karl mortar in an Adaptive suspension in the middle to place. Or on a P1500 chassis
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Wardukw

I like the way you think ,, but i did the math on this idea and with the mortar and mount it weights less than the proposed turret ,,ok only buy 10 tons but still and this thing is no where near finished yet ..still got a heap to do including the support legs for when its firing and it will fire exactly the same way it did on the Karl's chassis .
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

Dizzyfugu

I'd also suggest a (retractable) stabilizer at the end, behind the gun. Besides, Russian mobile (heavy) mortars use a different approach to counter that problem: the gun is not directly fixed to the hull, so that the tank itself has to take the recoil - it is rather mounted on a platform that is lowered to the ground. As a positive side effect, the vehicle does not have to be THAT huge and massive, and on some of those vehicles the gun actually points backwards when marching - making handling easier!


PR19_Kit

What's the difference between a heavy mortar and a big gun?

And do they have to climb up the barrel to drop the bomb into the muzzle?  :o
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

ChernayaAkula

#24
No, they don't have to climb up the barrel to chuck in the bomb. This one's a breech-loaded mortar.  :thumbsup: The vehicle Dizzy posted is a 2S4 Tyulpan, with a 240mm mortar firing a projectile almost 1.5 metres long and 130kg heavy.  :o

As for the difference between big guns and heavy mortars, I'd say the the difference is mainly in the projectile's trajectory. Generally, mortars fire a relatively heavy projectile (when compared to guns of similar calibre) in a high arc over a relatively short distance, while guns (in the artillery sense) fire a smaller projectile over far longer distances with a much shallower trajectory.
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Moritz


Must, then, my projects bend to the iron yoke of a mechanical system? Is my soaring spirit to be chained down to the snail's pace of matter?

kerick

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on August 15, 2014, 07:17:36 AM
I'd also suggest a (retractable) stabilizer at the end, behind the gun. Besides, Russian mobile (heavy) mortars use a different approach to counter that problem: the gun is not directly fixed to the hull, so that the tank itself has to take the recoil - it is rather mounted on a platform that is lowered to the ground. As a positive side effect, the vehicle does not have to be THAT huge and massive, and on some of those vehicles the gun actually points backwards when marching - making handling easier!



Interesting concept on this vehicle. I'll have to keep this one in mind. Ya gotta love the white wall road wheels!
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

Wardukw

Hell you lads been busy  :lol: .. Dizzy mate you read my mind ,, i will sticking a blade on the butt of this thing ,.. so when the machine backs it into the ground and the out riggers are deployed the mortars recoil system will do all the work and not the chassis ..Oh trust me guys there aint much i havent thought off for that thing .. hell you know what i'm like ..just look at the Stryker SPG  :lol:
If it aint broke ,,fix it until it is .
Over kill is often very understated .
I know the voices in my head ain't real but they do come up with some great ideas.
Theres few of lifes problems that can't be solved with the proper application of a high explosive projectile .

NARSES2

Are heavy mortars rifled ? If so then I suppose the main difference between them and a howitzer is the weight of projectile and range ? If they aren't rifled then I suppose they are less accurate then a howitzer ?

Chris
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: ChernayaAkula on August 15, 2014, 05:25:26 PM
No, they don't have to climb up the barrel to chuck in the bomb. This one's a breech-loaded mortar.  :thumbsup: The vehicle Dizzy posted is a 2S4 Tyulpan, with a 240mm mortar firing a projectile almost 1.5 metres long and 130kg heavy.  :o

As for the difference between big guns and heavy mortars, I'd say the the difference is mainly in the projectile's trajectory. Generally, mortars fire a relatively heavy projectile (when compared to guns of similar calibre) in a high arc over a relatively short distance, while guns (in the artillery sense) fire a smaller projectile over far longer distances with a much shallower trajectory.

Right, thanks very much, always handy to have these sort of things in your mind when you get into an argument with someone at the supermarket check-out.  ;D

My knowledge of artillery starts and stops with British Army 25 pounders, which could and did fire at quite high angles, thus being called gun-howitzers in some circles. I only ever fired one at almost point blank range using a scope sight though.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 16, 2014, 07:56:05 AM

My knowledge of artillery starts and stops with British Army 25 pounders, which could and did fire at quite high angles, thus being called gun-howitzers in some circles. I only ever fired one at almost point blank range using a scope sight though.  ;D


That sounds like your next article for the Newsletter Kit!  :thumbsup:

Gondor
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I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....