Jet powered WW2 aircraft

Started by Jesse220, October 10, 2014, 02:34:23 PM

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Dizzyfugu

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There were serious plans to build a "Jet Sturgeon". While looking for info, I cama cross this...





More about the paper aircraft here: http://davidg-flatoutart.blogspot.de/2012/06/short-jet-sturgeon.html


And then there's this whif-of-a-whif:





Hypothetical markings for a Sturgeon NF.II of 1782 NAS, serving with the British Pacific Fleet and shore-based at Manus in August 1946 for defence of the fleet anchorage at Seeadler Harbour against night-raiders.

NARSES2

That Jet Sturgeon looks quite good, do something with the rear canopy and it would look very good
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Jesse220


pyro-manic

Almost a jet-Beaufighter, if you squint a bit. Much better than the real Sturgeon in any case... :thumbsup:
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Dizzyfugu

Also found this... leaves a lot of questions, but the concept has some appeal?


McGreig

Quote from: Jesse220 on October 11, 2014, 05:50:21 PM
And do you know what might be impressive? Is to see a jet version of the B-29 Super Fortress. ;)

OK, technically it's a jet Tu-4, but how about this? Although I've no idea where the undercarriage is supposed to go - - -  :rolleyes:


pyro-manic

B-47 style bicycle with outriggers?
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PR19_Kit

It looks like it's about to be Bomarc'd into oblivion!  :o
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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PACOPEPE

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Quote from: wuzak on October 12, 2014, 01:35:30 PM
I figured a jet P-38 would have the jet in the central nacelle.

Like this?. "Lockheed P-88 Starligt":



Ah!, here the mixed powered version (with swept back wings) of the P-51:




famvburg

I believe that would be an Ilyushin Il-22, not a jet Tu-4. The landing gear of the Il-22 retracted into the fuselage.

McGreig

Quote from: famvburg on October 14, 2014, 04:16:54 PM
I believe that would be an Ilyushin Il-22, not a jet Tu-4. The landing gear of the Il-22 retracted into the fuselage.

An interesting point :thumbsup: I hadn't considered that interpretation because it's clearly meant to be a high altitude strategic bomber whereas the Il-22 was a tactical bomber - could clearly have used a bit of lateral thinking there  :rolleyes:

For what it's worth, I think that the proportions are wrong for an Il-22 which was fairly chunky and didn't have a ventral turret or engines mounted on pylons. On the other hand, the basic shape of the Il-22 is there and the fin and tail planes are exactly right although the gunner's position is more like a Tu-4, not projecting aft of the fin as on the Il-22.

Essentially, it's a 1950s (late 1940s?) US concept of a Soviet jet bomber based on who knows what information and appears to be a bit of a blend of Tu-4 and Il-22.

I posted it because it seemed to be an interesting take on what a jet powered B-29 might look like but, hey, this is whiff-world - - -

Sticking with the B-29 theme, I like the idea of the B-47 bicycle arrangement - it would be a feasible modification for a B-29 and Tupolev actually built a bicycle Tu-4 as a test machine for the layout proposed for the Myasishchyev "Bison".

Jesse220

I like to see a jet powered B-25 Mitchel bomber :rolleyes:

PR19_Kit

Quote from: McGreig on October 14, 2014, 05:11:18 PM
Sticking with the B-29 theme, I like the idea of the B-47 bicycle arrangement - it would be a feasible modification for a B-29 and Tupolev actually built a bicycle Tu-4 as a test machine for the layout proposed for the Myasishchyev "Bison".

Boeing, or somebody anyway, tested the bicycle gear idea with a B-26 at first, resulting in this :-

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit