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The Su-18 ('Fitter N') - a missing family link [pics & story on p. 4]

Started by Dizzyfugu, October 16, 2014, 12:07:48 AM

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Dizzyfugu

This thread starts early in the construction phase. This build has been inspired by a post/discussion from fellow user Jesse220 in the "Idea bank" section about an updated Su-17/22. That was... inspiring, as well as the fact that some time ago I stumbled across THIS nicely photoshopped Su-17U in foreign service...



Basic idea: close the nose intake, add a radar for N/AW duties, and move the intakes somewhere else.

Another teaser to tackle this build is tha fact that I never, in 35 years of model building, had a Su-7 or Su-17 on the bench.

More about the original discussion here: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,39478.0.html




My build has already become concrete:

  • Basic kit is the Smer Su-17M4
  • Nose radar cone from a F-15
  • Air intakes with splitter plates from a PM Model Su-15
  • Probably new/longer exhaust from a F-16

Idea is to make it a missing link between the late Su-17 versions and the Su-24 tactical bomber, while the Su-27 was already on the bench but primarily as a heavy fighter. Aircraft will be in Soviet Navy use, time frame is the early 90ies; armament will include a pair of Kh-31A anti-shipping missiles (from the ICM air-to-ground weapons kit), drop tanks and a pair of R-60 AAMs.
Livery will be based on typical Su-24 look: upper sides in light grey, lower surfaces and leading edges in white (will use a very pale grey). Very simple, but that's part of 'selling' the thing...  ;)


PR19_Kit

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Captain Canada

Oh yeah. The new intakes look awesome ! Love to watch your work...thanks !

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Tophe

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Dizzyfugu

Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 16, 2014, 09:52:04 AM
That's a BIG aeroplane!  :o

It is. All the Su-7/9 family aircraft are HUGE beasts, only a F-105 is bigger... Progress is good - only critical issue so far is the sloped nose of the late Su-17 versions. In the profiles it looks more streamlined than the early versions's air intake (which has a rather uniform diameter), but in real life/on the kit this turns out to be VERY wide around the cockpit. The radome has already been fitted, and it looks somewhat weird - also due to the slightly drooped nose of the late Fitter versions!  :-\ That will certainly take some more brains or even body sculpting - with the intakes inplace it looks less strange, though, but I am uncertain about the overall result/impression.  :party:

McColm




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kerick

Thanks for stepping up to the plate, this needed to be built!
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Tophe the Wise

Captain Canada

The big nose makes it look like a Flying Leopard !

The big missiles are loooking good. Besides, what's wrong with a missile looking flashy...that's pretty much what it's designed to be !

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Where's my beer ?

Dizzyfugu

The thing looks weird and familiar. It also reminds a lot of a single-seat F-4C/D, while the boxy air intakes look strongly like a Su-15 (where they come from). The Flying Leopard also came to my mind - overall, the thing really has a Chinese look to it. Somehow it also reminds me of the Q/A-5 ground attack derivate from the license-built MiG-19 - just a LOT bigger!

There were even plans and prototypes for naval attack versions with a radar fitted in a wacky nose section...



"My" Su-18 could be the late answer to that!

Anyway, more progress with the nose:

1:72 Sukhoi Su-18 (NATO 'Fitter N'), aircraft "24 Yellow" of the Soviet Naval Aviation Baltic Fleet's 66th OMShAP; Veshchovo AB, Vyborg District/Russia, 1991 (Whif/Smer kit conversion) - WiP by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Parts of the flanks have also been treated where the air intakes will go. So far, the conversion looks very straightforward!

Another issue is/are the landing gear wells of the Smer kit: they are empty, at best. I have pics of the real aircraft at hand, but I won't scratch anything. Instead I use a transplant from a cookie box blister(!) to fill the void with some structure. With some grey paint and a wash, this should suffice.  :rolleyes:

1:72 Sukhoi Su-18 (NATO 'Fitter N'), aircraft "24 Yellow" of the Soviet Naval Aviation Baltic Fleet's 66th OMShAP; Veshchovo AB, Vyborg District/Russia, 1991 (Whif/Smer kit conversion) - WiP by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

More to come soon, stay tuned!  :mellow:

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