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AFV interiors?

Started by seadude, December 16, 2014, 06:51:54 PM

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rickshaw

Quote from: NARSES2 on December 17, 2014, 06:46:49 AM
An unrelated question. Should that guy be resting his rifle muzzle down next to the M577 ?

Just looks wrong to me, but then I've never been in the services

As others have suggested, it is wrong.  However, the worst thing is that he's leaning it against a vehicle.  A definite NO, NO.   Why?  'cause you can never be sure when/if the vehicle is going to drive off, over your lovely rifle.

Don't know about the US Military but downunder, you get your rifle bent all out of shape and you're on a charge and up before the CO before your feet can touch the ground.

Resting it muzzle downwards is bad as well 'cause it could end up with the muzzle getting filled up with earth/mud and blocked leading possibly to a ruptured barrel if you attempt to fire it.    :blink:
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scooter

Quote from: rickshaw on December 20, 2014, 03:50:27 AM
Quote from: NARSES2 on December 17, 2014, 06:46:49 AM
An unrelated question. Should that guy be resting his rifle muzzle down next to the M577 ?

Just looks wrong to me, but then I've never been in the services

As others have suggested, it is wrong.  However, the worst thing is that he's leaning it against a vehicle.  A definite NO, NO.   Why?  'cause you can never be sure when/if the vehicle is going to drive off, over your lovely rifle.

Considering the engine hatches are open for daily PMCS, along with the driver's hatch, if that M577 starts moving forward our young PFC is going to have a lot more to worry about than a crushed under track rifle.
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Go4fun

Quote from: Go4fun on December 17, 2014, 06:54:03 PM
Quote from: seadude on December 17, 2014, 06:13:59 PM
As far as rebuilding the interior to look more like a camper, would any doll house accessories (Bed, plates, stove, etc., etc.) come close to 1/35 scale or would they be too large?
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kerick

Quote from: salt6 on December 20, 2014, 01:44:48 PM
If you want to get real wiffie, you could convert a M113 to wheels and then proceed from there.

This article has pics of the Alabama Slammer built by civilian workers in Kuwait to escort convoys. I don't know if it ever was used by the troops, but it was a good idea.
http://defensehightech.blogspot.com/2009_09_01_archive.html
Scroll down a bit.
Its an M-113 hull mounted on an M-800 series 5 ton truck. Openings were welded shut and windows cut in. The armored windows from a HUMMV were fitted. Top hatch was available for mounting MGs.
I was considering building one with an M-900 series 5 ton truck and a remote control gun on top.
It doesn't get more hillbilly camper than this!
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rickshaw

I understood that the M113 on the truck had been built by the Iraqis before the arrival of the coalition.  I never could understand how that made sense, as the M113 wasn't an Iraqi vehicle.   However, your version makes more sense now.
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seadude

I've already bought the Stryker and am waiting for it to arrive. Once I've looked at the instructions and parts, then I'll be able to determine if it was a good idea or not.
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Go4fun

Quote from: rickshaw on December 20, 2014, 04:00:31 PM
I understood that the M113 on the truck had been built by the Iraqis before the arrival of the coalition.  I never could understand how that made sense, as the M113 wasn't an Iraqi vehicle.   However, your version makes more sense now.
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kerick

The original article about the Alabama Slammer is hard to find anymore. IIRC the M-113 was US Army in Kuwait but was declared unrepairable. The truck apparently had a decent drive train but maybe the rest was rusted out. Anyway, the boys from Anniston Army depot that were deployed to Kuwait to repair stuff decided that on their own time they would put the two together. Not a bad idea in my book.
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zenrat

Quote from: Runway ? ... on December 20, 2014, 01:45:00 AM
...From Airfix (1:32).

I had one of these as a kid.  From what i've seen on Evil-Bay it might be cheaper to buy the KFS resin kit...
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Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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kerick

Quote from: salt6 on December 20, 2014, 08:56:11 PM
Thanks,

I've been wanting to do the vehicle but only had one photo.  Now to find the truck for the build.


salt
I am not aware of any M-800 series trucks in 1/35th scale. I was going to use the M-923 from Italeri. the article I mentioned said the idea was if this first version worked out to go with M-900 series trucks also. So, in good whiff tradition, both would be "correct".
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rickshaw

Quote from: Go4fun on December 20, 2014, 07:55:07 PM
Quote from: rickshaw on December 20, 2014, 04:00:31 PM
I understood that the M113 on the truck had been built by the Iraqis before the arrival of the coalition.  I never could understand how that made sense, as the M113 wasn't an Iraqi vehicle.   However, your version makes more sense now.
Possession being 90% of the law, if I can drag it off the battlefield I can do what I want with it!

In Commonwealth Armies that only lasts as long as you're not found out.  Once you are, it goes to the mob who are charged with Battlefield Recovery - my old corps - Ordnance.   We jealously guard our right to beg, borrow and steal and we don't like others trying to get in on our action!

After exercises we used to invoke our responsibility and strip the camps of any electrical cabling (Copper) and anything else that had been left behind.  We used to condemn the cabling, strip it of it's insulation and sell it as scrap.  The funds went into our Regimental Trust Fund, which was usually spent on booze ups.  ;)

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seadude

Picked up the Stryker kit (Trumpeter 1/35 M1133 Stryker MEV) from the Post Office tonight, brought it home, and just got done reading the instructions. I am disappointed. I feel like I just wasted $45.  :banghead:

Here's why:
a) No interior for the driver position.
b) No interior for the Commander's position.
c) No interior whatsoever for the back end where patients, other crew, and equipment goes.
d) No crew figures included in kit.

And that's just for starters.  :banghead: So if I want to make this an RV, then everything will have to be scratchbuilt for an interior. And if I make the back end into the area for cooking, dining, etc., then I might have to raise the roof slightly.
Modeling isn't just about how good the gluing or painting, etc. looks. It's also about how creative and imaginative you can be with a subject.
My modeling philosophy is: Don't build what everyone else has done. Build instead what nobody has seen or done before.

kerick

Same with the USMC LAV-25 Piranha kit. I had to build everything inside the vehicle. Sounds like a pattern.
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kerick

Of course if you wanted to do an Iraqi version a BMP on a Ural truck frame might work!
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Old Wombat

Hi, seadude!

This is the "guard van" or "caboose" unit I built for my Stryker-based High Mobility Battlefield Logistics Transport (HMBLT)







As you can see, I had to increase the height considerably for the Thomas the Tanker to be able to stand in it &, even then, it's still not quite tall enough.

Legend do interior sets for the Stryker (driver's position, engine bay & all points aft of the driver's station) - you can see the driver's station below in the HMBLT tractor unit (the fore-aft internal wall section in the top of the hull is, also, part of the set) - & I believe that Black Dog also do interiors for the Stryker.





Other than the driver's station, all of the interiors of this vehicle system are scratch built & you may find it cheaper & easier to do as I did for your camper version

:cheers:

Guy

Link to my build - hope it helps: http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,35529.0.html
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