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Zenrat's Flying Circus

Started by zenrat, January 02, 2015, 10:05:06 PM

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PR19_Kit

Quote from: Old Wombat on March 01, 2018, 03:36:44 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on March 01, 2018, 03:06:07 AM
Quote from: zenrat on March 01, 2018, 02:26:20 AM

I have a Hasegawa Corsair II in the stash and while building the Crusader I've been pondering building that with pop up wings.


It's always amazed me that Vought didn't do that anyway, they already had all the design and hardware ready.

Because the SLUF was designed to be a sub-sonic ground-pounder with a different chord & camber to its wing to that of the F-8 &, therefore, didn't need the greater lift of the steeper angle of attack on approach whilst keeping the nose down to where the pilot could see the deck, perhaps? :unsure:


Yes indeed, but it'd have been WAY cooler with the tilting wing.  ;D ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

zenrat

And, it could cause confusion.   :wacko:

Today.  Mystery Spitfire and Grach fiddley bits and weapons, Crusader PSR and got back onto the Kraz truck (front axle - which I discovered I have managed to mount the hubs on backwards) and Bugatti Royale (scratchbuilt DOHC cylinder head).



Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Weaver

An A-7 with a tilting wing and all it's existing high-lift characteristics raises the possibility of a STOL Corsair, perhaps with Jaguar or Viggen style soft-field undercarriage.
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Weaver on March 02, 2018, 05:30:41 AM

An A-7 with a tilting wing and all it's existing high-lift characteristics raises the possibility of a STOL Corsair, perhaps with Jaguar or Viggen style soft-field undercarriage.


And why not?

It could have compressor bleed fans on the CG with swivelling nozzles too...........
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

jcf

Tilting wing? Check.
Swiveling nozzles? Check.
Increased empty weight? Check.
Reduced ordnance load? Check.
Reduced fuel load? Check.
Reduced range? Check.

Amusing pondering? Check.

;D ;D ;D

PR19_Kit

You omitted :-

Increased noise level? Check.  ;D ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

zenrat

More painting of fiddley bits today (Grach and Mystery Spit).
I also did some research into Su 25s which led (due to it being a RW build) to repainting the undercarriage bays of the Grach aluminium (I had done them white).
And I made a tub of mail to go into the back of Apocalypse Post and a folded tarp to go on the roof rack.
On the Kraz front I had to glue the front axle hubs into position.  I has moveable steering but there is so much slop in it that it would have massive amount of camber and look stupid.  Shame to do it but the only solution would have been to re-engineer some of the parts.

there was also work on the GB Wyvern but it seems that given the time I was in the shed I should have got much more than that done.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on March 03, 2018, 01:52:22 AM
but it seems that given the time I was in the shed I should have got much more than that done.

Been there a few times, not the shed I hasten to add  ;D
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

jcf


Weaver

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on March 02, 2018, 01:41:55 PM
Tilting wing? Check.
Swiveling nozzles? Check.
Increased empty weight? Check.
Reduced ordnance load? Check.
Reduced fuel load? Check.
Reduced range? Check.

Amusing pondering? Check.

;D ;D ;D

Reduced reliance on vulnerable and inconveniently sited airbases? Check. :thumbsup:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

jcf

Quote from: Weaver on March 03, 2018, 12:46:26 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on March 02, 2018, 01:41:55 PM
Tilting wing? Check.
Swiveling nozzles? Check.
Increased empty weight? Check.
Reduced ordnance load? Check.
Reduced fuel load? Check.
Reduced range? Check.

Amusing pondering? Check.

;D ;D ;D

Reduced reliance on vulnerable and inconveniently sited airbases? Check. :thumbsup:

Complications added to the logistics chain to support non-standard basing? Check.  ;D ;)

Weaver

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on March 03, 2018, 01:18:05 PM
Quote from: Weaver on March 03, 2018, 12:46:26 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on March 02, 2018, 01:41:55 PM
Tilting wing? Check.
Swiveling nozzles? Check.
Increased empty weight? Check.
Reduced ordnance load? Check.
Reduced fuel load? Check.
Reduced range? Check.

Amusing pondering? Check.

;D ;D ;D

Reduced reliance on vulnerable and inconveniently sited airbases? Check. :thumbsup:

Complications added to the logistics chain to support non-standard basing? Check.  ;D ;)

Jobs preserved in logistics by having something more than a smoking hole in the ground at the end of their 'chain'? Check.... :wacko:
"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones

zenrat

I'm interested to see how long you two can keep this up.

Now i've completely lost my train of thought...

...oh yes, what did I do today.
More fiddley bits.  Being a strike aircraft with about a million hard points under each wing, some with up to a hundred weapons on each one an Su 25 has many many fiddley bits.
Weapons are all done and now i've started on the pylons, undercarriage, wheels and undercarriage doors.
Mystery Spitfire is completed apart from a lick of clear and some wash and rigging an aerial.  I may reveal it tomorrow.
Last final touch on Apocalypse Post.  I have made a folded tarpaulin for the roof rack.  Just need painting.
Bodywork on the Edsel is complete and it's primed and ready for a decision on colour.  I'm feeling two tone pink and white but as it has to have flames for the theme build I need to check my decals and choose colours that work with them.  Also, pink and white prolly won't go with the interior.
I started on the rest of the Itasha Toyota.  So far all i'v done is paint and decal the body so I have all the rest to build.
Picked up the 1/72 Aircraft tractor from the Hasegawa T-34 Mentor.  Annoyingly I have managed to lose a wheel.  Had a rummage through my 1/72 parts box and found some old Hot Wheels wheels which with a soft of wheel arch reshaping fit nicely - as long as you like the cartoon Hot Rod look, which I do.
Glued some more parts of the Kraz truck together.
Painted the underside of the Crusader wings Sky, primed the fuselage and drew on the demarkation line with pencil.  I hav gone with a low line and grey tail exactly as per Panther G's drawing.
Resisted the temptation to start another kit as I have almost finished two of the above.  I have an idea for a Cold War GB Peacenik protest vehicle but I want to get these two completely finished first.  Or at least one of them anyway.

Now that seems much more like it.  Feel I have made progress today.

:thumbsup:
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

jcf

Quote from: Weaver on March 03, 2018, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on March 03, 2018, 01:18:05 PM
Quote from: Weaver on March 03, 2018, 12:46:26 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on March 02, 2018, 01:41:55 PM
Tilting wing? Check.
Swiveling nozzles? Check.
Increased empty weight? Check.
Reduced ordnance load? Check.
Reduced fuel load? Check.
Reduced range? Check.

Amusing pondering? Check.

;D ;D ;D

Reduced reliance on vulnerable and inconveniently sited airbases? Check. :thumbsup:

Complications added to the logistics chain to support non-standard basing? Check.  ;D ;)

Jobs preserved in logistics by having something more than a smoking hole in the ground at the end of their 'chain'? Check.... :wacko:

Or just more smoking holes as the whole forward-based VSTOL/STOL concept was never tested in a full on war? Check.  :wacko: :wacko:

Weaver

Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on March 04, 2018, 02:51:13 PM
Quote from: Weaver on March 03, 2018, 08:12:02 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on March 03, 2018, 01:18:05 PM
Quote from: Weaver on March 03, 2018, 12:46:26 PM
Quote from: joncarrfarrelly on March 02, 2018, 01:41:55 PM
Tilting wing? Check.
Swiveling nozzles? Check.
Increased empty weight? Check.
Reduced ordnance load? Check.
Reduced fuel load? Check.
Reduced range? Check.

Amusing pondering? Check.

;D ;D ;D

Reduced reliance on vulnerable and inconveniently sited airbases? Check. :thumbsup:

Complications added to the logistics chain to support non-standard basing? Check.  ;D ;)

Jobs preserved in logistics by having something more than a smoking hole in the ground at the end of their 'chain'? Check.... :wacko:

Or just more smoking holes as the whole forward-based VSTOL/STOL concept was never tested in a full on war? Check.  :wacko: :wacko:

Futility of argument confirmed as NOTHING has been tested in a full-on war since jet V/STOL was invented? Check.... :rolleyes:

"Things need not have happened to be true. Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will endure when mere facts are dust and ashes, and forgot."
 - Sandman: A Midsummer Night's Dream, by Neil Gaiman

"I dunno, I'm making this up as I go."
 - Indiana Jones