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Zenrat's Flying Circus

Started by zenrat, January 02, 2015, 10:05:06 PM

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zenrat

Thanks folks.

Currawong looks even better with satin clear on it.
Mitch is ready for transfers but I need to print them first.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

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zenrat

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Currawong is up on her feet.
Gully Currawong WIP 22-11-2019 by Fred Maillardet, on Flickr
Looks very Soviet from that angle.  Bort number doesn't help of course.
I can't help thinking there is room for lift engines behind the cockpit (despite my dislike of that method of VTOL).  That or enlarge the intakes, fit Harrier nozzles and call it Pegasus powered.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

Old Wombat

Has a life outside of What-If & wishes it would stop interfering!

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veritas ad mortus veritas est

NARSES2

Quote from: zenrat on November 22, 2019, 02:38:19 AM

Looks very Soviet from that angle.  Bort number doesn't help of course.
I can't help thinking there is room for lift engines behind the cockpit (despite my dislike of that method of VTOL).  That or enlarge the intakes, fit Harrier nozzles and call it Pegasus powered.

I have to agree with both of those statements.

I think the outriggers give it the VTOL look personally. I'd go for a lift engine behind the cockpit, would suit the airframe to my mind. It is looking the business though mate  :thumbsup:
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

Rheged

Agreed it looks Soviet and VTOL ish, (and a very fine piece of work too)  but if you fit a lift engine, do you have room for fuel?
"If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
It  means that you read  the instruction sheet

scooter

I don't remember, is it bicycle or tricycle gear?  Because it looks very bicycle gear-y
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Quote from: Rheged on November 22, 2019, 08:03:07 AM
Agreed it looks Soviet and VTOL ish, (and a very fine piece of work too)  but if you fit a lift engine, do you have room for fuel?

There's not much room for fuel anyway in a Starfighter.

Quote from: scooter on November 22, 2019, 10:05:04 AM
I don't remember, is it bicycle or tricycle gear?  Because it looks very bicycle gear-y

This is bicycle, using extended Harrier parts.

Design is locked in on this one but I have plenty of Hasegawa Harriers to get parts from and early-Hasegawa/Academy F104s are cheap and no good for anything but whiffing.
Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

NARSES2

Quote from: Rheged on November 22, 2019, 08:03:07 AM
but if you fit a lift engine, do you have room for fuel?

Did any aircraft designed to use lift jets ? It's always seemed to me that achieving VTOL was the ultimate goal and that anything else, like the ability to fly more then a few miles without refuelling, was purely secondary to that ?
Do not condemn the judgement of another because it differs from your own. You may both be wrong.

PR19_Kit

Quote from: NARSES2 on November 23, 2019, 02:18:45 AM

Did any aircraft designed to use lift jets ? It's always seemed to me that achieving VTOL was the ultimate goal and that anything else, like the ability to fly more then a few miles without refuelling, was purely secondary to that ?


What they REALLY needed was longer wings!  ;) ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

jcf

Ryan Model 190, F-104G based, two GE-1 engines and fold-out bleed-air driven lift-fans,
fan-discs edge driven like the XV-5.



PR19_Kit

And its combat radius was how many yards?  ;D ;)
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

jcf

Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 23, 2019, 01:01:41 PM
And its combat radius was how many yards?  ;D ;)

Same gross weight as the F-104G, Mach 1.9, useful load 4,508 lb.,
total propulsion system weight of 4,783 lb. versus 3,850 for the
F-104G.
So two engines instead of one, plus eight lift-fans for an increase in weight
of 933 lbs., not bad all things considered.
Looking at an F-104G cutaway it doesn't appear that the conversion would
have that much effect on the internal fuel tank arrangement, and as they'd
probably be using the wingtip tanks, it may have been OK.


zenrat

So I was just sitting down to go through the forum when there was a series of bangs from outside and Mrs z said "what was that?"
Oh joy.  Some <expletive deleted> has driven into my ute.
It was parked outside stately zen manor when a car came round the corner, hit the neighbours SUV (pushing it 6' sideways into the fence) before hitting my ute just behind the drivers side rear wheel.
Kim's SUV absorbed most of the impact energy but on mine the bodywork has been punched inwards, the bumper end mangled and the rear light cluster smashed.  Worst damage though isn't immediately obvious - pushing in the bottom of the bodywork has moved the upper side of the tub outwards by about 10mm.  The tailgate latch no longer engages on that side.
This is a write off given it has done 350,000 km and the whole rear bodywork would need to be removed and straightened or replaced.  Work to repair it to a roadworthy state will be more than it is worth.
I'll bend the bumper roughly back into shape and gaffer tape a replacement light cluster in place (already ordered thanks to evil-bay) but it's time to look for a new (to me anyway) car.
Shame as i've had this for at least 10 years and was set on getting this one to 500,000km.

The car that did the damage made it halfway round the block before it died.  It had no number plates on it.  The driver ran off through the cemetery.
The police however identified it from it's VIN and told me they have the driver.

It could have been much worse as Kim's kid regularly play basketball in the driveway.  If they had been doing that when this happened...


Fred

- Can't be bothered to do the proper research and get it right.

Another ill conceived, lazily thought out, crudely executed and badly painted piece of half arsed what-if modelling muppetry from zenrat industries.

zenrat industries:  We're everywhere...for your convenience..

DogfighterZen

 :o :o :o In danger of being called an extremist, i know what that guy deserves... a good treatment of being slapped around for an hour! :banghead: :banghead:
Sorry about the loss of your car, mate.
Was that guy drunk or high on drugs? Or just plain stupid? Some people just should never be allowed to ride a bike, let alone drive a car, that piece of **** could've killed someone...  :angry: :angry: :angry:
"Sticks and stones may break some bones but a 3.57's gonna blow your damn head off!!"