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Super Etendard Ideas

Started by FAR148, January 04, 2015, 06:43:21 AM

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Mossie

What about two engines for a landbased variant?  I always thought the SuE looked a bit skinny in the hips.
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PR19_Kit

Graft the back end of an F-111 on there..........
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Weaver

Quote from: Mossie on February 18, 2018, 07:03:19 AM
What about two engines for a landbased variant?  I always thought the SuE looked a bit skinny in the hips.

The back end of a MiG-19 might blend in quite nicely, and you could claim the engines as Adours. They wouldn't give much more thrust (at least in a late '60s/early '70s timeframe) but the fuel consumption would be WAY better and you'd have twin-engined safety.

Alternatively, beef up the fuselage diameter, nozzle size and intake size and claim it's got a Spey. Worked for the AMX...
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Zero-Sen

Quote from: Weaver on February 18, 2018, 11:57:11 AM
Quote from: Mossie on February 18, 2018, 07:03:19 AM
What about two engines for a landbased variant?  I always thought the SuE looked a bit skinny in the hips.

The back end of a MiG-19 might blend in quite nicely, and you could claim the engines as Adours. They wouldn't give much more thrust (at least in a late '60s/early '70s timeframe) but the fuel consumption would be WAY better and you'd have twin-engined safety.

Alternatively, beef up the fuselage diameter, nozzle size and intake size and claim it's got a Spey. Worked for the AMX...
I like your idea that would rather be a Super Etendard II ;D
http://www.aviastar.org/air/france/dassault_etendard2.php

Etendard II scratch build here ...
http://maquette72.free.fr/amis/JCHoug/2014_08_etendard2/index_ajch08.php

zenrat

Quote from: Scotaidh on February 18, 2018, 05:53:21 AM
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No more or less well than a forward-swept wing anything else, I'd imagine. The problem with forward-swept wings from a modelling point of view is finding one with the right aerofoil cross-section: you can't just turn a backwards-swept wing round the other way...

And, if you just cut the wings off at the root to make them sweep forward, you'll find you just lost 20-30% of your wing length.  Trimming the tip's to match the sweep angle exacerbates the problem. 

If you then extend the tips out the results are wings that are the correct length but absurdly narrow.  Since the real-world problem with forward-swept wings is tip-flex causing catastrophic flutter ...

I did once put forward-swept wings on a 1/48 Hornet, and I had to make completely new wings - the only original kit wing parts used were the strakes and the under-wing pylons and stores. 
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Might scaleoramaing 1/48 wings into 1/72 solve some of the issues?
Fred

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The Big Gimper

Not a Super but ..... how about a Dassault Deux Etage??  (Etendard+ Mirage:wacko:


D-Etendard-Plus-02
by Big Gimper, on Flickr


D-Etendard-Plus-01
by Big Gimper, on Flickr

1/72 Heller Etendard with F1 intakes, AB (SNECMA Atar 9K-50), wings, horiz stab and F-16 tail. Nose and landing gear TBD. Maybe F1 as well.
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Fred

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Dizzyfugu

That's pretty, my first thought was a low-wing Mirage F.1.

NARSES2

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ysi_maniac

Looks perfect. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

... but.., How about F1 tail fin? :mellow:
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Quote from: ysi_maniac on September 27, 2018, 10:36:26 AM
Looks perfect. :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

... but.., How about F1 tail fin? :mellow:

Thanks.

I could do that but lazy in me saw that the F-16 tail was already a separate part so no cutting was required. F1 tail is attached the fuselage.

I may go with the F1 or an earlier F-16 tail which does not have the lower extension.
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