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From twins to 4 engines

Started by McColm, January 28, 2015, 03:08:21 AM

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McColm

The Avro Manchester had two engines and had limited success, which was developed into the Avro Lancaster.
The Halifax was developed from a twin engine prototype.
I did have a book on American Bombers which covered the early B-1 upto the B-58, with the proposed drawings of the twin engine aircraft and their four engine big brother which weren't built but would make great Whiffs.
Would this mean buying two kits of the same model and extending the wing or find the nearest four engined bomber and use that wing?

The C-160 and the Br1150 Atlantic come to mind as likely candidates. Bombers, transport and maritime could be covered with a host of Whiffs.
Another idea could be three engines, either triple the same or jet and props.

jcf

The twin-engine predecessor to the Halifax, the HP 56, never left the drawing board, the changes were made long before
metal was cut, no prototype was constructed.

See here:
http://www.whatifmodelers.com/index.php/topic,23460.msg340742.html#msg340742


McColm

Thanks for that and the lined drawing.
I wonder if there was a four engine Wellington, I know there were plans for the B-25 and B-26 as four engined bombers?

PR19_Kit

Quote from: McColm on January 28, 2015, 09:48:26 AM
I wonder if there was a four engine Wellington,

There was in WHiffWorld............  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Rheged

Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 28, 2015, 09:52:27 AM
Quote from: McColm on January 28, 2015, 09:48:26 AM
I wonder if there was a four engine Wellington,

There was in WHiffWorld............  ;D

I've a vague memory of a tri-motor Wellington whiff, somewhere, somewhen........
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Are losing theirs and blaming it on you....."
It  means that you read  the instruction sheet

kerick

Four engine Buffalo or Caribou. Scale o rama small engines onto a larger scale airframe.
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McColm

A four engined E-2 Hawkeye
Grumman Tracker and Tracer
A three engine Gannet- two RR Griffons under each wing
S-3 Viking
F-27
Super King
Fire bombers
Bristol Aircraft

PR19_Kit

Quote from: McColm on January 28, 2015, 01:37:42 PM
A three engine Gannet- two RR Griffons under each wing

That'd be four engines, the Gannet's already a twin but doesn't look as if it is.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

McColm

Oops got a double engine fitted , sorry forgot.

The Rat

Or a two to a three, I've got plans for a Wellesley like that.

Just finished a two to four, the Transall C-260
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jcf

Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 28, 2015, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: McColm on January 28, 2015, 01:37:42 PM
A three engine Gannet- two RR Griffons under each wing

That'd be four engines, the Gannet's already a twin but doesn't look as if it is.  ;D

Pedant.  ;D

kerick

Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 28, 2015, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: McColm on January 28, 2015, 01:37:42 PM
A three engine Gannet- two RR Griffons under each wing

That'd be four engines, the Gannet's already a twin but doesn't look as if it is.  ;D

The Double Mamba IIRC, Two turbo props running to the same gearbox and prop. Now put one Double Mamba on each wing, problem solved.
" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

PR19_Kit

Quote from: kerick on January 28, 2015, 09:04:00 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on January 28, 2015, 02:18:59 PM
Quote from: McColm on January 28, 2015, 01:37:42 PM
A three engine Gannet- two RR Griffons under each wing

That'd be four engines, the Gannet's already a twin but doesn't look as if it is.  ;D

The Double Mamba IIRC, Two turbo props running to the same gearbox and prop. Now put one Double Mamba on each wing, problem solved.

No, two turbo prop engines running to TWO props, via a concentric gearbox.

Each engine-prop assembly was independent and could be run separately. Indeed the FAA did just that for long endurance flights, running with only one prop turning.

Yes, for that subject I am pedantic. It's such a weird concept that many people don't know how it worked
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Green Dragon

A 4-engined S-3 Heavy COD has been on my to do list for about ten years, have the kits but my Mojo is gone!

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McColm

I hope you get it back.
I've been thinking of turning the Lockheed S-3 Viking into an airliner. Either stretch the fuselage or use the V-22 Osprey instead add the wings from the Viking and four turbofan engines.