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Double barreled tanks?

Started by seadude, April 05, 2015, 03:34:01 PM

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rickshaw

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April 06, 2015, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: pyro-manic on April 06, 2015, 11:08:35 AM
If you've got space for two guns, you also have space for one bigger and more powerful gun, which is usually better.

Except that nowadays that means you also need an auto-loader.  The 140mm gun for MBTs has a round which is too larger for most people to lift and load at the ROF required in battle.  The 155mm round for the standard NATO Howitzer is too larger for most people to lift and load continuously.   With autoloaders comes all sorts of problems around manning levels, who does what in an AFV crew and so on.
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pyro-manic

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April 07, 2015, 12:26:13 PM Last Edit: April 07, 2015, 02:55:24 PM by pyro-manic
All fair points. The Russians seem to manage with autoloaders.

There's also an issue with space (for ammunition, guns and recoil space, extra crew) for two gun designs. Bigger turrets, bigger vehicles, leading to logistical problems as well (bigger and heavier tanks, requiring bigger transporters, ARVs, transport aircraft etc. ) which all need to be considered.
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April 07, 2015, 01:50:54 PM
Quote from: rickshaw on April 06, 2015, 05:29:46 PM
Quote from: pyro-manic on April 06, 2015, 11:08:35 AM
If you've got space for two guns, you also have space for one bigger and more powerful gun, which is usually better.

Except that nowadays that means you also need an auto-loader.  The 140mm gun for MBTs has a round which is too larger for most people to lift and load at the ROF required in battle.  The 155mm round for the standard NATO Howitzer is too larger for most people to lift and load continuously.   With autoloaders comes all sorts of problems around manning levels, who does what in an AFV crew and so on.

That might be an argument for going back to British-style separate loading shells and charges, if you don't want the autoloader.
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philp

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April 07, 2015, 04:53:17 PM
There have been many multi cannoned tanks but usually they were different caliber guns or had multi turrets.

WWI British Male tanks had a gun in each sponson.
Germans had the Neubaufahrzeug with a 75mm and 37mm gun.  Then there was the Maus.
The Russians had the T-35 and I have seen a pic of a KV-1 armed with a 76mm and 45mm gun side by side.
The US M6 Heavy Tank was armed with a 3 inch gun and a 37mm.
The initial Centurions had the 17 lber and a 20mm.

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