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Fire Boss's FireHog

Started by JayBee, June 02, 2015, 04:00:39 AM

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JayBee

Kit box for entry No. 3.
Well everyone else and their uncle is doing an ex-military fire-bomber so why not!





Jim
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Captain Canada

Oh nice ! Now we're talking !

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Mossie

Hah!  Scratch my next entry off the list! ;D  Fire Hog is always welcome.
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

kerick

" Somewhere, between half true, and completely crazy, is a rainbow of nice colours "
Tophe the Wise

The Chaos

I built the ever. you much must be filled and sandet a lot.
Have Fun.

Thorvic

See JayBee's going the whole 'Hog' with three builds so far for this GB  ;D
Project Cancelled SIG Secretary, specialising in post war British RN warships, RN and RAF aircraft projects. Also USN and Russian warships

JayBee

Quote from: kerick on June 02, 2015, 07:24:10 PM
There was an actual proposal for this.
http://www.aviationtrivia.org/A-10-Fire-Hog.php

Indeed there was and that was what gave me the idea for this model.
The other little twist is that I am using the two-seater as the fireboss's lead plane.

In the real world of course there was only one two-seater built and it is in a museum.

The original proposal never went ahead as politics got in the way.
A-10s were not released for sale from AMARG as they were deemed "required for national security".

Jim
Alle kunst ist umsunst wenn ein engel auf das zundloch brunzt!!

Sic biscuitus disintegratum!

Cats are not real. 
They are just physical manifestations of collisions between enigma & conundrum particles.

Any aircraft can be improved by giving it a SHARKMOUTH!

philp

Nice.

Seen a couple built up as firefighters so seeing one as the Fire Boss would be different.
Phil Peterson

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Mossie

It's being proposed again, by an organisation calling themselves the USA Firefighting Air Corps:
http://usafac.com/aerial-firefighting-partnerships/
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

Captain Canada

Those would be great firebombers. Love the idea would be neat to see and transit times would be good as well.

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JayBee

Right work has commenced on this project.
First is the wing/underfuselage part with the various unneeded pylon locating holes filled and the required pylons fitted.
The Centre-line pylon has been modified so that the lower edge of all three pylons lie in the same plane.





Next the forward lower fuselage part with nose weights added, well there is loads of space for weights so why waste it.





That's all for the moment.

Alle kunst ist umsunst wenn ein engel auf das zundloch brunzt!!

Sic biscuitus disintegratum!

Cats are not real. 
They are just physical manifestations of collisions between enigma & conundrum particles.

Any aircraft can be improved by giving it a SHARKMOUTH!

sandiego89

Quote from: kerick on June 02, 2015, 07:24:10 PM
There was an actual proposal for this.
http://www.aviationtrivia.org/A-10-Fire-Hog.php

I seem to recall that the weight, specifically where the weight of the gun, armor, ammo drum and ammo was on the A-10- that weight was a real issue when mulling a A-10 firefighting conversion.  Although the aritcle kerick links indicated this was no big deal- "just rip all that stuff out"- seems to miss the larger weight and center of gravity realities.   Removing thousands of pounds far forward on any aircraft will cause trouble.  Center of gravity needs to be ahead of center of lift (unless you play FBW tricks).  Maybe jaybee can backstory in a few tons of depleted uraninum up front as ballast  :thumbsup: 

I too have two A-10s in the stash that were to be firebombers, and even got to the point of fitting up big tanks (48 scale tanks on a 72 scale aircraft), but never got past dry fit.  Bring it on jaybee!   
Dave "Sandiego89"
Chesapeake, Virginia, USA

Mossie

That was one of several big arguments against it.  I think that one was over-egged, as I've not heard it as an argument put against the A-10 storm-penetrator that's currently undergoing conversion.

Keep it coming Jim. :ph34r: I grabbed a single-seater off Nick at Telford with the intention of giving it a similar treatment, I'll be very interested how it turns out. :thumbsup:
I don't think it's nice, you laughin'. You see, my mule don't like people laughin'. He gets the crazy idea you're laughin' at him. Now if you apologize, like I know you're going to, I might convince him that you really didn't mean it.

JayBee

Quote from: sandiego89 on June 16, 2015, 10:06:49 AM
Quote from: kerick on June 02, 2015, 07:24:10 PM
There was an actual proposal for this.
http://www.aviationtrivia.org/A-10-Fire-Hog.php

I seem to recall that the weight, specifically where the weight of the gun, armor, ammo drum and ammo was on the A-10- that weight was a real issue when mulling a A-10 firefighting conversion.  Although the aritcle kerick links indicated this was no big deal- "just rip all that stuff out"- seems to miss the larger weight and center of gravity realities.   Maybe jaybee can backstory in a few tons of depleted uraninum up front as ballast  :thumbsup: 

 

Watch and learn people.  :wacko: :rolleyes:
Alle kunst ist umsunst wenn ein engel auf das zundloch brunzt!!

Sic biscuitus disintegratum!

Cats are not real. 
They are just physical manifestations of collisions between enigma & conundrum particles.

Any aircraft can be improved by giving it a SHARKMOUTH!

Captain Canada

Looking good ! Love the A-10 can't wait to see more FireHog !

:cheers:
CANADA KICKS arse !!!!

Long Live the Commonwealth !!!
Vive les Canadiens !
Where's my beer ?