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Hawker Siddeley P.1121

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#165
October 16, 2015, 11:13:08 AM
Thankyou for your kind words folks. The model is packed in the back of my car ready for it's first public appearance at the Glasgow show tomorrow when several of our members will be able to see it and pass comment on the result.

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DogfighterZen

#166
October 16, 2015, 01:12:33 PM
Another great looking bird!  :thumbsup: Also didn't know a thing about this one before your build, i see an F-16's distant cousin... ;D

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#167
October 16, 2015, 01:26:23 PM
Quote from: DogfighterZen on October 16, 2015, 01:12:33 PM

.......i see an F-16's distant cousin... ;D


The P.1121 was a lot bigger than an F-16, and about twice the weight, but I can see what you mean about the configuration.

Cracking job you made of that one Alastair, it has the definite 'look' of the 1121 for sure.  :thumbsup: :bow:
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#168
October 16, 2015, 01:41:32 PM
But it's not just every F-16's cousin, it's directly related to this one... http://q-zon-fighterplanes.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/Lockheed-F16-DSI.jpg  ;D
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Gondor

#169
October 16, 2015, 02:19:01 PM Last Edit: October 17, 2015, 12:23:15 AM by Gondor
The P.1121 is roughly the same size as an F-4, roughly 150% bigger than a 1/72 Hawker Hunter is why I am going to be using a 1/48 Hawker Hunter as the basis for a scratch build

Gondor
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Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

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#170
October 16, 2015, 04:25:38 PM
You're going to build ANOTHER one?  :o

Why does the phrase 'glutton for punishment' come to mind?
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

Gondor

#171
October 17, 2015, 12:26:11 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 16, 2015, 04:25:38 PM
You're going to build ANOTHER one?  :o

Why does the phrase 'glutton for punishment' come to mind?

After building this "thing" Kit I feel able to scratch build one and I will not have any time pressure as I have had with this build

Gondor
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kitbasher

#172
October 17, 2015, 03:21:54 AM
impressive  :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
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#173
October 17, 2015, 08:01:50 AM
Quote from: Gondor on October 17, 2015, 12:26:11 AM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 16, 2015, 04:25:38 PM
You're going to build ANOTHER one?  :o

Why does the phrase 'glutton for punishment' come to mind?

After building this "thing" Kit I feel able to scratch build one and I will not have any time pressure as I have had with this build

Gondor

I've had to really stop myself joining GB's for a while now, exactly for that reason.  I haven't been able to finish the last three GB's I joined in on and it was beginning to bug me.  I enjoy my kit-bashes more without the pressure of a time limit to get it done, gives me more time to think problems out better so that the finished product isn't rushed and more importantly, doesn't look rushed
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Gondor

#174
October 17, 2015, 11:47:30 AM Last Edit: July 30, 2017, 04:14:50 AM by Gondor
Well the build got a favourable response of "That Looks Nice" at the Glasgow show today and I remembered to take a couple of pictures that I should have taken on Thursday night

The comparable sizes of this and my F-4EM





It's now packed away with OGL travelling show so it will be at Telford to help with the promotion of the book Hawker P.1103 and P.1121 at its launch.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Steel Penguin

#175
October 17, 2015, 12:09:42 PM
I see what you mean when you say its a big plane, id pegged it mentally as around 2/3 - 3/4 of that.
but it does look the business next to the phantom
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#176
October 17, 2015, 12:21:44 PM
that looks great  :bow:
how big is it compared to an f105?
what engine was in it? thats a HUGE single engine
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#177
October 17, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
The intended engine for the P.1121 was the dh Gyron, and it was a monster, rated at 20000 lbs dry. But it only ever flew in the test bed Short Sperrin, which had just one Gyron to start with, in the lower position of its port engine pod, but later on they added a second Gyron on the other side too.

I saw, and heard, the Gyron Sperrin at Farnborough in 1955 and it made a fly past on only the single Gyron.  :o

It was Seriously loud!
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

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#178
October 17, 2015, 01:15:27 PM
Except the Gyron had serious surge problems when tested with a mockup of the intake.  Engine changed for an Olympus - no problems.  Likelihood of P.1121 getting Olympus much higher, especially when TSR2 is flying with the same engine.
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#179
October 17, 2015, 01:34:41 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on October 17, 2015, 01:03:21 PM
The intended engine for the P.1121 was the dh Gyron, and it was a monster, rated at 20000 lbs dry. But it only ever flew in the test bed Short Sperrin, which had just one Gyron to start with, in the lower position of its port engine pod, but later on they added a second Gyron on the other side too.


Interestingly though, the Olympus 301 was rated at 20,000lbs too   --- and the Vulcan B.2 had four of them ---
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