Side by side ee lightning

Started by Caveman, August 01, 2015, 03:04:09 PM

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Caveman

as opposed to the RL over and under configuration. Has anyone built one? It'd take fairly significant surgery is think. Look cool though! Perhaps a bit soviet?
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PR19_Kit

That's a different idea.  :thumbsup:

I'm not sure if anyone on here has done it, there have been more than one single engine Lightning, using various Sukhoi fuselages, but I've not seen a side-by-side version.
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Gondor

Sounds good though your going to have to carefully think about where and how your going to hang the various tail surfaces. What kind of intakes were you thinking of? The one the Lightening had already or wing root intakes like the Sea Hawk and Hunter or even something completely different? Looking forward to it regardless  :thumbsup:

Gondor
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kerick

When I first read the subject I thought you meant side by side as in four engines! Don't know where all the fuel would go!
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Caveman

I was thinking basically just rotating a standard fuselage by 90. So standard intake. Main wings would be shoulder mounted and horizontals low mounted. Re add the strakes, cut out the bulged fuel tank and refit on the 'new' underside. Lots of putty and evergreen required to even things out. Some significant fairing for the cockpit too. I'd probably paint the inside of the canopy black so that I wouldn't have to bother with interior.
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kitnut617

Quote from: kerick on August 01, 2015, 03:53:33 PM
When I first read the subject I thought you meant side by side as in four engines! Don't know where all the fuel would go!

I've got a plan to do that, was going to use a 1/48 Lightning front end then blend in two 1/72 rear fuselages, then the plan was to use the 1/48 wings.  Problem arose soon after I obtained a 1/48 Lightning to do it, 1/48 is just too big for the idea, really need something around 1/60 scale.
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kitnut617

Quote from: Caveman on August 01, 2015, 03:54:52 PM
I was thinking basically just rotating a standard fuselage by 90. So standard intake. Main wings would be shoulder mounted and horizontals low mounted. Re add the strakes, cut out the bulged fuel tank and refit on the 'new' underside. Lots of putty and evergreen required to even things out. Some significant fairing for the cockpit too. I'd probably paint the inside of the canopy black so that I wouldn't have to bother with interior.

What I would do is to use two fuselages, cut the bottom half off each one then just glue the two top halves together --
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Gondor

Quote from: Caveman on August 01, 2015, 03:54:52 PM
I was thinking basically just rotating a standard fuselage by 90. So standard intake. Main wings would be shoulder mounted and horizontals low mounted. Re add the strakes, cut out the bulged fuel tank and refit on the 'new' underside. Lots of putty and evergreen required to even things out. Some significant fairing for the cockpit too. I'd probably paint the inside of the canopy black so that I wouldn't have to bother with interior.

Just a suggestion, please feel free to ignore if this is no help or goes strongly against your build idea.

How about using two fuselages and cut the upper half's from each to form the sides of your fuselage, that then means you don't have to fill in a dam big hole where the fuel tank used to be and the exhausts are symmetrical, you also have two under fuselage fuel tanks to use as you wish.

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Caveman

Probably the easier solution almost certainly. But I'd have to have 2 models rather than 1.
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kitnut617

You could always ask on here if anyone has a spage fuselage or a wrecked one they don't need.

I like the idea, it needs to be built    :lol:    I've had similar thoughts along these lines myself
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kitnut617

Quote from: Gondor on August 02, 2015, 01:49:23 AM
Quote from: Caveman on August 01, 2015, 03:54:52 PM
I was thinking basically just rotating a standard fuselage by 90. So standard intake. Main wings would be shoulder mounted and horizontals low mounted. Re add the strakes, cut out the bulged fuel tank and refit on the 'new' underside. Lots of putty and evergreen required to even things out. Some significant fairing for the cockpit too. I'd probably paint the inside of the canopy black so that I wouldn't have to bother with interior.

Just a suggestion, please feel free to ignore if this is no help or goes strongly against your build idea.

How about using two fuselages and cut the upper half's from each to form the sides of your fuselage, that then means you don't have to fill in a dam big hole where the fuel tank used to be and the exhausts are symmetrical, you also have two under fuselage fuel tanks to use as you wish.

Gondor

Quote from: kitnut617 on August 01, 2015, 03:57:51 PM
Quote from: Caveman on August 01, 2015, 03:54:52 PM
I was thinking basically just rotating a standard fuselage by 90. So standard intake. Main wings would be shoulder mounted and horizontals low mounted. Re add the strakes, cut out the bulged fuel tank and refit on the 'new' underside. Lots of putty and evergreen required to even things out. Some significant fairing for the cockpit too. I'd probably paint the inside of the canopy black so that I wouldn't have to bother with interior.

What I would do is to use two fuselages, cut the bottom half off each one then just glue the two top halves together --

SNAP!    ;D
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Gondor

Quote from: Caveman on August 02, 2015, 06:17:53 AM
Probably the easier solution almost certainly. But I'd have to have 2 models rather than 1.

Which kit are you using as a base kit? Someone might have a spare as kitnut617 said.

Quote from: kitnut617 on August 02, 2015, 07:18:17 AM
Quote from: Gondor on August 02, 2015, 01:49:23 AM

How about using two fuselages and cut the upper half's from each to form the sides of your fuselage, that then means you don't have to fill in a dam big hole where the fuel tank used to be and the exhausts are symmetrical, you also have two under fuselage fuel tanks to use as you wish.

Gondor

Quote from: kitnut617 on August 01, 2015, 03:57:51 PM

What I would do is to use two fuselages, cut the bottom half off each one then just glue the two top halves together --


SNAP!    ;D

And to think that I look at some postings and think, "why didn't they read the post or two before they responded"  :banghead:

Gondor
My Ability to Imagine is only exceeded by my Imagined Abilities

Gondor's Modelling Rule Number Three: Everything will fit perfectly untill you apply glue...

I know it's in a book I have around here somewhere....

Caveman

Gondor, no base kit yet. Still just an idea at the moment. I've had some ideas about how to possibly do it with a single fuselage, lots of cuts and some plugs between the halfs
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Rick Lowe

Might it be easier (and cheaper) to use two big diameter styrene tubes as the basis for the rear, sleeved down to take the kit exhausts, and covered in either sheet or putty?
If extended far forward enough, they could also be used as intakes...

Sounds like the reverse of my thoughts on a mod to a Chance-Vought Cutlass...  ;D

Cheers

PR19_Kit

Quote from: Rick Lowe on August 02, 2015, 01:56:01 PM

Sounds like the reverse of my thoughts on a mod to a Chance-Vought Cutlass...  ;D


There's the solution, swap fuselages between a Cutlass and a Lightning.  ;D
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit