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Messerschmitt Bf 110 Sternschnuppe

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September 15, 2015, 02:41:48 AM Last Edit: September 20, 2015, 03:31:42 AM by zenrat
Idea is to build something like this

Using these.


I plan to use 109 wings, Stuka vertical tail and shorten the fuselage.  Possibly a lightweight turret.
So far i've glued sub-assemblies together preparatory to attacking them with the razor saw.
Fred

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NARSES2

#1
September 15, 2015, 06:24:29 AM
Braver man them me Gunga Din  :thumbsup: ;D
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#2
September 15, 2015, 07:43:13 AM
...a bit on the side....too funny ! This is going to be cool can't wait to see it come together !

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zenrat

#3
September 16, 2015, 03:53:53 AM
Left or Right hand drive?
I drew it RH Drive but given it's German maybe the driver should be on the Left.

Quote from: NARSES2 on September 15, 2015, 06:24:29 AM
Braver man them me Gunga Din  :thumbsup: ;D

The Revell kit is ex-Frog and is very basic with lots of flash and ejector pin marks.  I have no problem cutting that up.
On the other hand the Tamiya is crisply moulded with great detail but rather soft plastic.  I'll be looking out for another.

Today I separated the 110s nacelles from it's wings, truncated them and glued them back to back.  I also started building the centre wing section from pieces of chopped up wing (necessary to get parallel leading & trailing edges).  By using pieces of wing i'm hoping to retain some of the surface detail.
Fred

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Weaver

#4
September 16, 2015, 04:12:02 AM
Quote from: zenrat on September 16, 2015, 03:53:53 AM
Left or Right hand drive?
I drew it RH Drive but given it's German maybe the driver should be on the Left.

Well the BV 141 was right-hand drive, so I think visually, it's fine. The real issue however, if you want to get technical, is how the various torque reactions and asymetric forces balance out. The BV 141's cockpit pod was to the right of it's single engine because of those reasons.
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Rick Lowe

#5
September 16, 2015, 01:06:31 PM
But could you negate the torque by having the screws turn in opposite directions?

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#6
September 16, 2015, 07:07:50 PM
The Revell 110E was a Monogram tool, their 110G was the Frog tool.
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#7
September 17, 2015, 02:05:25 AM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on September 16, 2015, 01:06:31 PM
But could you negate the torque by having the screws turn in opposite directions?

Cheers

They'd be doing that anyway if both engines were of the same configuration.

There'd be zero torque reaction from the engine pod so the asymmetric thrust and drag would be an overriding factor in the yaw characteristics of the airframe.
Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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zenrat

#8
September 17, 2015, 02:20:39 AM
I've cut the nacelle for wing fitment now - it's LH Drive.
I've also shortened the fuselage.

Monogram or Frog (the confusing Scalemates timeline strikes again), it's crude and flashy.
Fred

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#9
September 17, 2015, 04:09:02 AM
The Revellogram kit was always highly regarded as it's got a good shape.
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#10
September 17, 2015, 04:27:35 AM Last Edit: September 17, 2015, 04:30:22 AM by zenrat
It may well do (i'm not enough of an expert to know about the fine points), but as you point out elsewhere there are now the superb Eduard Bf 110s.
My example is suffering from the age of the moulds which were so worn parts have thickened edges rather than flash.
Fred

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NARSES2

#11
September 17, 2015, 06:24:40 AM
I built the Revell/Monogram kit years ago. Nice build from what I remember
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#12
September 17, 2015, 06:38:02 AM
I was just asking that question on another thread I guess I should have asked here ! What about the Airfix one ? It's new ?

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NARSES2

#13
September 17, 2015, 06:45:02 AM
Right. It's one of the first new kits after their resurrection. It's a reasonable build, has some build issues (nothing drastic) but is not a patch on the new stuff. I enjoyed the build but didn't do to well with the paint  :banghead: .
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#14
September 17, 2015, 12:52:01 PM
Quote from: PR19_Kit on September 17, 2015, 02:05:25 AM
Quote from: Rick Lowe on September 16, 2015, 01:06:31 PM
But could you negate the torque by having the screws turn in opposite directions?

Cheers

They'd be doing that anyway if both engines were of the same configuration.

There'd be zero torque reaction from the engine pod so the asymmetric thrust and drag would be an overriding factor in the yaw characteristics of the airframe.
Thanks, Kit - makes sense.  :thumbsup:

Cheers
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