DONE +++ MiG 'Izdeliye 33' a.k.a. MiG-33SE (ASCC code 'Foghorn') of the VPAF

Captain Canada · January 03, 2016, 07:46:29 PM

Wow ! Love to watch your work....and stopping to take pics is the only way to slow you down lol

Dizzyfugu · January 04, 2016, 09:15:38 AM

Things keep moving, the interior becomes more and more complete before the upper fuselage can be "sculpted". Note the new front wheel well that will lay under the (all new) cockpit tub - the only possible postion left after the air intakes were unified (they will be kept in the MiG-29 wedge style). Not certain how much of the air intake interior will be seen later, but I simply cannot keep it OOB - empty and even with side holes you could look through!

1:72 Mikojan-Gurevich MiG-33SE (NATO code 'Foghorn', a.k.a. 'Izdeliye 33'); VPAF, late 90ies (WiP) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

PR19_Kit · January 04, 2016, 02:53:12 PM

That's one complex structure there Thomas, I'm impressed how you can keep the overall concept in mind while cutting and shutting it all.

Dizzyfugu · January 04, 2016, 11:36:02 PM

As I mentioned: I have a plan!

Or, at least, a general idea of what I want to achieve/cut/glue... Some things evolve, though, like the air intake design (gets a splitter plate) or the front wheel well - I will implant the cockpit tub from a Revell G.91, which fits perfectly into the MiG-29's opening, and its simulated air intake interior will become the roof of the new front wheel well, so that there's even enough space for this construction.
At the moment I am occupied with the basis fuselage, and my plan appears feasible - even though it will take some serious PSR work to creat the upper side from three roughly cut pieces...

Dizzyfugu · January 05, 2016, 09:31:36 AM

The fuselage's upper side comes together, plus a nose from a vintage Matchbox F-16 because the height of the middle section with cockpit and spine had to be reduced. Length was reduced slightly, too. Carpenter putty fills the wide seams between the sections, and it was also used to build up the rear fuselage for the single, bigger engine.

1:72 Mikojan-Gurevich MiG-33SE (NATO code 'Foghorn', a.k.a. 'Izdeliye 33'); VPAF, late 90ies (WiP) by dizzyfugu, on Flickr

Gondor · January 05, 2016, 10:49:09 AM

That is some serious work there Dizzyfugu

Gondor

DogfighterZen · January 05, 2016, 11:16:38 AM

Looking very good indeed! A lot of PSR you've got there, but you have some experience on the matter so no worries there, right?

Looking forward to see the result!

PR19_Kit · January 05, 2016, 12:41:39 PM

Wow, that came together very well, and quickly too.

Captain Canada · January 05, 2016, 05:17:38 PM

A single engined Mig.29 is somat I've always wanted to do, ever since I saw an in progress pic of one here where it looked as such. Can't wait to see more.

Dizzyfugu · January 05, 2016, 11:32:24 PM

Thank you for the attention. Looks good so far, but I still have doubt concerning overall proportions. As far as I can tell at the moment, the tail has become considerably shorter (the elevators will come from an F-16 and are much shorter than the swept MiG-29 tail), and the main landing gear attachment points appear (relatively) too far tailwards. The original wing attachment points look a bit goofy, too. Nothing that could not be mended, but the single engine mod has more consequences than expected!

Gondor · January 06, 2016, 02:17:25 AM

Considering that you are working from pictures of wind tunnel models I would think that if you have to move parts or resize them to make the aircraft appear proportional or right you should be good as yours will be a production example. Just look at the differences between the prototype Su-27 and the production machines, in fact most Soviet aircraft from the 70's and 80's look as if they have been "refined" after the prototypes were built.

Gondor

Dizzyfugu · January 06, 2016, 03:26:23 AM

The T-10 and the Su-27 were almost completely different aircraft, because the complete aerodynamic concept was changed. My Ideliye 33 build is a compromise, because you can either carve it from wood, try to modify an F-16 or use a MiG-29. The MiG appeared like the more sound basis, also because it is a contemporary design and I'd guess that many design features would pop up again.

AFAIK the Izdeliye 33 would have been smaller than both the F-16 and MiG-29, which is plausible because it was to be powered with just one of the MiG-29's RD-33 engines. Maybe a 1:100 MiG-29 would have been a better basis, though - but no such kit exists (except for a die cast model)? The necessary size reduction is a tough task, I must admit. It's actually worse than the PSR duty. I am happy if I can generate "something" that bears a certain resemblance to the Izedeliye 33 outlines and does not look too "constucted", therefore as much from the MiG-29 will be kept (incl. the wings, which are SO wrong on the Nakotne kit that they can be taken as serious input for this more or less fictive production aircraft...

). I think the end product will much appear like a Soviet F-16 copy. Just experimented with the wings (yes, they need to be moved forward) and the fin, and the more parts come together the more F-16-ish the 'Foghorn' looks!

Thorvic · January 06, 2016, 04:29:02 AM

Wouldn't an Art Model Mikoyan-Gurevich E-8/2 make an alternative starting point perhaps ?. Lerx added from Plastic-card and putty. Wings and Canopy from the Mig-29 ?

Dizzyfugu · January 06, 2016, 04:34:48 AM

Have that kit in the stash. IMHO: no. You could use the chin intake, since it appears on several models/profiles, but the E-8 was simply a modified MiG-21. Creating something with a blended wing/body from that is tough... But the overall size would be better.

Funny thing about the MiG-29 is that I find it amazing how much F-16 genealogy can be found in the overall design!

Gondor · January 06, 2016, 05:02:24 AM

Quote from: Dizzyfugu on January 06, 2016, 03:26:23 AM
The T-10 and the Su-27 were almost completely different aircraft, because the complete aerodynamic concept was changed. My Ideliye 33 build is a compromise, because you can either carve it from wood, try to modify an F-16 or use a MiG-29. The MiG appeared like the more sound basis, also because it is a contemporary design and I'd guess that many design features would pop up again.

AFAIK the Izdeliye 33 would have been smaller than both the F-16 and MiG-29, which is plausible because it was to be powered with just one of the MiG-29's RD-33 engines. Maybe a 1:100 MiG-29 would have been a better basis, though - but no such kit exists (except for a die cast model)? The necessary size reduction is a tough task, I must admit. It's actually worse than the PSR duty. I am happy if I can generate "something" that bears a certain resemblance to the Izedeliye 33 outlines and does not look too "constucted", therefore as much from the MiG-29 will be kept (incl. the wings, which are SO wrong on the Nakotne kit that they can be taken as serious input for this more or less fictive production aircraft... ). I think the end product will much appear like a Soviet F-16 copy. Just experimented with the wings (yes, they need to be moved forward) and the fin, and the more parts come together the more F-16-ish the 'Foghorn' looks!

I know what you mean about a model not looking the same as the aircraft it represents. The old Revell Su-27 bears only a passing resemblance to the aircraft it was supposed to depict. I wonder if the same person made the moulds for both that and you Nakote kit?

Gondor