Il-28 Seabeagle

zenrat · January 15, 2016, 12:10:44 AM

Don't forget it's downhill all the way.

I cleaned up one set of props today and hit a snag. They are such a good fit they leave no room round the edges for air to get into the engine.

I will add an intake on top of the nacelle. It'll improve the shape anyway and hide some of my dubious blending between Ilushyn and Fairey.
I glued the fuselage halves together today and then hurriedly separated them as I realised I hadn't built the bomb bay.

zenrat · January 15, 2016, 02:47:07 AM

They are rather nice aren't they.

rickshaw · January 15, 2016, 04:59:43 AM

Where did they originate from?

tigercat · January 15, 2016, 11:37:03 PM

My brain keeps reading Seabeagle as Seagull looks interesting

zenrat · January 16, 2016, 08:43:58 PM

Quote from: rickshaw on January 15, 2016, 04:59:43 AM
Where did they originate from?

NARSES2 - he thinks they are either Shackleton or Spitfire.

Quote from: salt6 on January 15, 2016, 08:05:59 PM
Why not just cut the nacelle back a bit?

Because (although you can't see it clearly in the crappy phone pic) the end of the nacelle is a separate piece. with a small intake on it just to the port side of centre. I don't want to lose that.
I've made an intake from part of a 1/48 rocket pod which seems to work.

zenrat · January 17, 2016, 01:02:46 AM

Another crappy phone pic showing the intake.

Now I have to make another one the same.

Gondor · January 17, 2016, 04:46:05 AM

That upper intake looks poor and out of place. The basic idea is fine though. I would cut the underside of that upper intake back so that the front of the intake is vertical and no, changing the face of the intake to make that vertical where it is would not work as its the curvature of the top of the intake that is making it look wrong. Aesthetics can be everything at times and that intake looks more Kerbal Space Program that Soviet Aviation.

Gondor

PR19_Kit · January 17, 2016, 06:24:17 AM

Quote from: zenrat on January 16, 2016, 08:43:58 PM
Quote from: rickshaw on January 15, 2016, 04:59:43 AM
Where did they originate from?

NARSES2 - he thinks they are either Shackleton or Spitfire.

They're Aeroclub Spitfire contra-props. Chris sent me a set for my MB8 Marlin a while back and I recognise them. The spinner's too pointed for a Shack prop.

Captain Canada · January 18, 2016, 06:55:15 AM

Looking good ! Can't wait to see more.

kerick · January 18, 2016, 07:34:37 AM

A little blending of those scoops will be fine. I'm sure I will steal these ideas soon.

zenrat · January 19, 2016, 01:15:20 AM

Thanks Kit.

Quote from: Gondor on January 17, 2016, 04:46:05 AM
That upper intake looks poor and out of place. The basic idea is fine though. I would cut the underside of that upper intake back so that the front of the intake is vertical and no, changing the face of the intake to make that vertical where it is would not work as its the curvature of the top of the intake that is making it look wrong. Aesthetics can be everything at times and that intake looks more Kerbal Space Program that Soviet Aviation.

Gondor

Thanks for the input Alastair. They look better in the flesh. The front is actually vertical when viewed from the side. This is an odd angle photowise.
IMO they don't look any more tacked on that the ones Fairey/Napier stuck on below.
The curve on the top of the intake blends it into the area where the nacelle joins the wing. Cutting down the back would leave an awkward step and raising the front would make it overly tall.
i'll have another look at it tomorrow though.

In the meantime I have removed the radome from the bottom of the fuselage and replaced it with a larger one made from a 1/25 spare wheel cover.

zenrat · January 20, 2016, 01:50:45 AM

I've reworked the top intake to bring it lower and make it flow into the top of the nacelle better.
I have a picture which shows this but for some reason photobucket is refusing to accept my uploads.

zenrat · January 27, 2016, 02:25:58 AM

Mock up. Wings not fixed on yet as there is at least 1 more round of PSR needed on the nacelles.

And these are what it'll be carrying. Watson 5-J Swiften long range anti ship missiles.

zenrat · January 31, 2016, 02:20:57 AM

Wings are attached.

Not a brilliant fit. Some PSR will be required. The join isn't too strong either. I would have put in some styrene rod spars but the bomb bay is in the way. Presumably Italeri have made it taller than IRL.
Almost completed '40 Ford gasser behind it. What young men distracted themselves with during the 60's to take their minds off of the imminent threat of nuclear destruction.

NARSES2 · January 31, 2016, 05:43:09 AM

Quote from: zenrat on January 31, 2016, 02:20:57 AM
Almost completed '40 Ford gasser behind it. What young men distracted themselves with during the 60's to take their minds off of the imminent threat of nuclear destruction.

Not in my neck of the woods. Here, if we thought about it at all, it was beer and girls