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HS Trident, DH.121

Started by ysi_maniac, July 23, 2016, 07:11:42 PM

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ysi_maniac

I assume this is a study for DH Trident



Here my version in BEA colours, along with DH Trident.

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DarrenP2

nice some other Airlines possibly

Air Rhodesia
British Midland

PR19_Kit

I think The Gripper would have needed at least three engines to fly profitably in Rhodesia, maybe even four!  :o

When I flew in them back and forth to Berlin Templehof BA used to limit the passenger load on the London-bound flights with Trident 2s as there was a risk that they wouldn't get off with a full load on the short runway.
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ysi_maniac

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HS Trident and Dassault Mercure shared the same drawback: low range. So, why not external fuel tanks as a "quick and dirty" solution?

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PR19_Kit

How about pinion tanks on the Trident, like the DH Comet 4C?
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Hobbes

Quote from: PR19_Kit on July 24, 2016, 06:44:44 AM
I think The Gripper would have needed at least three engines to fly profitably in Rhodesia, maybe even four!  :o

When I flew in them back and forth to Berlin Templehof BA used to limit the passenger load on the London-bound flights with Trident 2s as there was a risk that they wouldn't get off with a full load on the short runway.

Hm, I could see a hot-and-high version of the Trident. Conways? 2x RB.211?  :o

lenny100

you know i have access to the last complete  Hawker Siddeley HS.121 Trident 1C aircraft, G-ARPO, which is open to the public and they have some of the drawings of several different takes of the basic trident including a figure 8 bubble decker and several with wing tanks and a belly tank, that are not the far away from what you have drawn
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ysi_maniac

^^^^^
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Leading Observer

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 26, 2016, 12:15:35 PM
How about pinion tanks on the Trident, like the DH Comet 4C?

Hawker Siddeley probably had them in stock at Hatfield ;)
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Dizzyfugu

Quote from: PR19_Kit on August 26, 2016, 12:15:35 PM
How about pinion tanks on the Trident, like the DH Comet 4C?

And/or some Küchemann Carrots with fuel on the trailing edges, à la Victor B.2?

ysi_maniac

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PR19_Kit

How about this for a Trident with pinion tanks?

Kit's Rule 1 ) Any aircraft can be improved by fitting longer wings, and/or a longer fuselage
Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

...and I'm not a closeted 'Take That' fan, I'm a REAL fan! :)

Regards
Kit

ysi_maniac

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ysi_maniac

And the problem with power: instead of a 4th engine ... I understand that JATO in a civil environment wouldn't be acceptable, but how about small post burners to be used only during take off?
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lenny100

Quote from: ysi_maniac on August 27, 2016, 01:11:17 PM
And the problem with power: instead of a 4th engine ... I understand that JATO in a civil environment wouldn't be acceptable, but how about small post burners to be used only during take off?
jato was a real option but the group have yet to find the photos of it fitted on a operational aircraft although they believe they have the brackets for the fittings for the stubs on their aircraft, some of the later aircraft actually have 5 engines the 3 mains 1 extra for takeoff and also the APU
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