Scale Model World 2016

Started by Martin H, July 24, 2016, 03:03:55 PM

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Nick

Just wondering if we're going to the usual Chinese buffet on the Friday or Saturday night?

Need to sort out what I'm doing with the London club guys who are going for a curry on the Friday.

Martin H

Quote from: Nick on October 27, 2016, 02:13:09 AM
Just wondering if we're going to the usual Chinese buffet on the Friday or Saturday night?

Need to sort out what I'm doing with the London club guys who are going for a curry on the Friday.
Ok ill start the usual thread.
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NARSES2

Got my IPMS Magazine yesterday and just thought I'd flag up the bit about roadworks around the Centre possibly causing problems for those driving.

If you've seen it fine, if not you are forewarned. The bit gives a website to go to for farther information. Doesn't effect me as I go by train but I know it may well effect many others. Indeed I think it's bad enough normally without roadworks ?

The other snippet that piqued my interest is the comment in the SMW's Manager's pre-show report. He mentions that one or two more familiar traders are missing from this years show because they didn't get their paperwork in, in time. Anyone know who they are ? Just curious that's all  :rolleyes:
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Thorvic

Looking at the IPMS magazine Timetable and considering the location of the SIG I would suggest those attending to seriously consider moving buys and bags of personal items out to their cars in the 2-4 pm period so you only have your models to pack up and carry out after 4pm as only a half hour window for members displaying without one of the four wristbands for the SIG.

Considering the location of the stand in hall 3 and the really restricted parking near that roller door, it might pay to park in the front car parks near the sides and use the front door and brave going through the foyer and up the steps rather than through both halls, the fire door in hall 1 and up the side car park as that's a long and busy route to carry your stuff especially if the weather is not favourable.

Of course its only a suggestion  ;D, as of course I won't be there in person but I will be in spirit with you guys and I can see where the pitfalls will be this time around  :banghead:
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PR19_Kit

I hope the IPMS and SMW hierarchy will learn a lesson from the almost inevitable late filling and early emptying of Branch and SIG stands this year, as that will surely be the result of the '4 wristband' rule.

I'll probably show up late morning Sat and leave mid-afternoon Sunday as a result. It's not anywhere near as much as it was anymore...........
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As much fun as it is to blame the IPMS hierarchy, it's the Telford centre itself putting too many restrictions due to the drearily tirsome excuse of "elf n safety".  Then again, if people are stupid enough to let in geet big muckle lorries into a pedestrian area, then it's not surprising if there's an accident or two. 
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Also of note is the comments regarding access for memebers on the show days from 9am. The rear doors will be closed at 8:45. members access from 9am will be via the front doors only. The same applies for those exiting the venue between 1600-1630 on the sunday.

I also noticed the show managers coments ref last years incidents of "anti social behaviour" from a small minority of people present. IE verbal and physical abuse of volunteers and TIC staff. I doubt it applies to any of our gang, but ill point it out anyway.

Richard makes it clear that any one found behavng in such a maner will be ejected from the show (Regardless of membership) and could well find them selves explaining thier behaviour to the local police.
So if things do go pear shaped at the entrance or anyware else, keep a lid on any fustrations you may feel. As shooting from the hip will most likely wind up with you being shown the nearest exit and a possible enforced visit to the local nick.
I always hope for the best.
Unfortunately,
experience has taught me to expect the worst.

Size (of the stash) matters.

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IPMS (UK) Project Cancelled SIG Member.

NARSES2

Quote from: Thorvic on November 02, 2016, 10:45:23 AM

Considering the location of the stand in hall 3 and the really restricted parking near that roller door, it might pay to park in the front car parks near the sides and use the front door and brave going through the foyer and up the steps rather than through both halls, the fire door in hall 1 and up the side car park as that's a long and busy route to carry your stuff especially if the weather is not favourable.



Entered that way last couple of years, no probs  :thumbsup:

Quote from: The Wooksta! on November 02, 2016, 01:25:50 PM
As much fun as it is to blame the IPMS hierarchy, it's the Telford centre itself putting too many restrictions due to the drearily tirsome excuse of "elf n safety".  Then again, if people are stupid enough to let in geet big muckle lorries into a pedestrian area, then it's not surprising if there's an accident or two. 

I did have a quick look at the Law Lee and it has changed. The onus is now on the show organisers rather then the venues. In all honesty a few local shows could take a look and say "this just isn't worth the risk"  :-\

Quote from: Martin H on November 02, 2016, 01:33:11 PM

I also noticed the show managers coments ref last years incidents of "anti social behaviour" from a small minority of people present. IE verbal and physical abuse of volunteers and TIC staff. I doubt it applies to any of our gang, but ill point it out anyway.



Yup I heard about that at the show last year and was a little surprised. I latter got given a "first hand" account whilst in the queue for a cuppa. Guy only mentioned the verbal though. Could of sworn I passed the gory details on ?  ;D I can't see the point personally. People ho help organise these things do so on a voluntary basis and even if some things seem petty to you just chill, smile and say thank you. Believe me that can wind people up much more  :rolleyes: ;D

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Quote from: NARSES2 on November 03, 2016, 07:21:53 AM

Yup I heard about that at the show last year and was a little surprised. I latter got given a "first hand" account whilst in the queue for a cuppa. Guy only mentioned the verbal though. Could of sworn I passed the gory details on ?  ;D I can't see the point personally. People ho help organise these things do so on a voluntary basis and even if some things seem petty to you just chill, smile and say thank you. Believe me that can wind people up much more  :rolleyes: ;D


At risk of having this run and run, I was right there when one such incident happened last year.

A LARGE number of members were in a snake-like queue at the north end of the main entrance hall, and I was maybe 2/3 of the way from the front and I didn't get there till well gone 0830. When it got near 0900 one of the Centre Staff members, not an IPMS volunteer, opened up the barriers some 30 ft from the front of the queue, letting late-comer  members in who'd only been waiting for maybe 10 mins. Needless to say the guys at the front of the queue, who'd been there for well over an hour, were more than a tad incensed and let the Centre Staff guy know in no uncertain terms!

He didn't take a  blind bit of notice though and continued to let the late-comers in first before he attempted to move the barriers nearer the front. But by that time the guys at the front of the queue had taken things into their own hands and already moved them.

There seems to be a communications breakdown between the IPMS Staff and the Centre Staff. The latter seem to do what they feel like without talking to the IPMS Staff when a semi-crisis occurs.
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Kit's Rule 2) The backstory can always be changed to suit the model

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Regards
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Martin H

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Quote from: PR19_Kit on November 03, 2016, 03:08:16 PM
There seems to be a communications breakdown between the IPMS Staff and the Centre Staff. The latter seem to do what they feel like without talking to the IPMS Staff when a semi-crisis occurs.

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of any given issue. At the end of the day, Its TIC's venue and they do despite certain opinions expressed here and elseware have a fair idea of what they are doing. And im sure their assignment brief is most likley going to state that TIC or its appointed team leaders has the final call on any issue that requires urgent "corrective" action, over and above any view point or decision of the client (in this case the IPMS).

And yes I do know what Im talking about, as I have had the same mandatory training and hold the same SIA licence that the TIC's security team memebers will be holding. And they will be licenced. As its a legal requirement for any security role in the UK.

Plus its a place of work for their staff and regardless of competance or the lack there of, no one deserves to feel threatened or intimidated in their place of work.
I always hope for the best.
Unfortunately,
experience has taught me to expect the worst.

Size (of the stash) matters.

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Rheged

Quote from: NARSES2 on November 03, 2016, 07:21:53 AM

Yup I heard about that at the show last year and was a little surprised. I latter got given a "first hand" account whilst in the queue for a cuppa. Guy only mentioned the verbal though. Could of sworn I passed the gory details on ?  ;D I can't see the point personally. People ho help organise these things do so on a voluntary basis and even if some things seem petty to you just chill, smile and say thank you. Believe me that can wind people up much more  :rolleyes: ;D

Ah yes!!  You practice what my little sister  calls 'VENEMOUS COURTESY'  Agreed that it does confuse and discomfit the unhelpful/unthinking fool, and the discerning/overworked person of sense appreciates it in the trying circumstances.
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van883

It is such a pain that the Telford show is on the same weekend as the classic car show at the nec. I am going to the nec tomorrow and the show is absolutely  huge. I may not have the energy  for Telford...

Martin H

And relax!

The cloths are down, and so are several models. Bar the models the stand is ready to roll. However the rest can wait until tomorrow.

First impressions of the new set up crew wristbands..........

Booking in and receiving the bands was quite smooth for me, some people had to Que for a short while but not to long.

The halls were a lot quieter than previous years set ups. things seemed more sedate and controlled.

Those checking the wristbands at the roller shutters were IPMS people. TIC security controlled the carpark and kept an eye out by the doors but didn't seem to be getting to involved. I spoke to some of the guys on the shutters that I knew, they said that it had been a very good natured day for them, no reports of any agro from those guys. Doesnt mean that others who had been manning the doors had such an easy time of it. Im on the door tomorrow between 8am and 9am, so I'll get a first hand view of how things play out then.

Its clear that set up tomorrow morning will drag on well past the members only time in places, but that could be down to those displays that were not able to make it to the venue today.

Note for those coming tomorrow. Dont try and get in via the roller shutters, the members entrance is at the front of the venue, thats where you can collect your ipms members wrist bands. The shutters are only in operation for those with set up wristbands between 8am and 8:45am. If you do not have a set up crew wrist band, you will be turned away from the roller shutters (most likely by me) and directed to the front of the building.

The same applies for the Sunday morning between 8am and 8:45am, althou I wont be on the door that time.

I always hope for the best.
Unfortunately,
experience has taught me to expect the worst.

Size (of the stash) matters.

IPMS (UK) What if? SIG Leader.
IPMS (UK) Project Cancelled SIG Member.

Weaver

It now looks like I'll be getting there about lunchtime rather than 10am. :banghead:

Got an electrical problem in the house and I need some bits from a DIY store. I'll have to wait for them to open, get the stuff, do the job, then set off.

Anybody expecting me to bring/collect stuff - don't panic. I'm definitely coming to the show today, whatever happens with the DIY.

Martin: how are you for models? I'm planning on bringing four (two on the table at a time then rotated) but I can bring more if you need them. I'm also coming home on Sat night and driving down to the show again on Sunday so I can bring more on the Sunday if required. I'll post on here just before I leave home, which I guess/hope will be about 10-11am.
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