British Aerospace P.106 (P.110 and ACA)

[overscan]

Discussions were had with India and Sweden. Could have been the Gripen/Griffon and Typhoon's little brother.

[kitnut617]

beautiful ----   

I've read that quite a few BAe designers were ""loaned"" to Saab to work on the Gripen. They design links a very clear in this project

[overscan]

BAe... HAL... Saab...

The BHS Griffon! On sale now... bargain price.

[overscan]

beautiful ----   

I've read that quite a few BAe designers were ""loaned"" to Saab to work on the Gripen. They design links a very clear in this project

British Aerospace designed and built the wing for the prototype Gripen as a subcontractor.

[overscan]

This was very much a single engine P.110. The P.110 turned into EAP by moving the air intakes and canards to where the Germans wanted them, for post-stall manouverability. British Aerospace wasn't that convinced on this - so a production P.110, or even a "Eurofighter" minus the Germans but plus the French, would likely not have them.

[Captain Canada]

Cool stuff guys, thanks for all the pics and info ! Sure looks like a mini-Typhoon or an early Gripen.

[NARSES2]

Mirage F.1 rear end in that first picture anybody ?

Very attractive looking airplane

[DogfighterZen]

Both are beautiful!!

Mirage F.1 rear end in that first picture anybody ?

Very attractive looking airplane

Thought of the Mirage F.1 but because of the top view in the second pic.

[Gondor]

New book subject Paul?

Gondor

[PR19_Kit]

The twin fins on the P.110 look really good. I wonder why they didn't do that on the EAP/Typhoon?

[overscan]

New book subject Paul?

Gondor

No, but a subject of ongoing interest. I need to read the new book on EAP and see how much of what I had is now published anyway.

[overscan]

The twin fins on the P.110 look really good. I wonder why they didn't do that on the EAP/Typhoon?

1) The EAP ("Experimental Aircraft Programme for the Agile Combat Aircraft") used a Tornado fin to cut costs only. ACA was always supposed to be twin fin.

2) The team couldn't find a suitable place for twin fins free of vortex interference from canards, wing roots etc, so in the end, it kept the single fin.

[PR19_Kit]

The twin fins on the P.110 look really good. I wonder why they didn't do that on the EAP/Typhoon?

1) The EAP ("Experimental Aircraft Programme for the Agile Combat Aircraft") used a Tornado fin to cut costs only. ACA was always supposed to be twin fin.

2) The team couldn't find a suitable place for twin fins free of vortex interference from canards, wing roots etc, so in the end, it kept the single fin.

Ah right, makes aerodynamic sense I guess.

But we can re-write the aerodynamics in WhiffWorld and fit twin fins.  Plus a few extra vortex damping vanes somewhere as well......

[KJ_Lesnick]

What year was this conceived?

[overscan]

The twin fins on the P.110 look really good. I wonder why they didn't do that on the EAP/Typhoon?

1) The EAP ("Experimental Aircraft Programme for the Agile Combat Aircraft") used a Tornado fin to cut costs only. ACA was always supposed to be twin fin.

2) The team couldn't find a suitable place for twin fins free of vortex interference from canards, wing roots etc, so in the end, it kept the single fin.

Ah right, makes aerodynamic sense I guess.

But we can re-write the aerodynamics in WhiffWorld and fit twin fins.  Plus a few extra vortex damping vanes somewhere as well......

Absolutely so. I can post some more stuff tonight.