The Old Kit GB - Rules discussion

[NARSES2]

Right gentlemen. The next GB will be "The Old Kit GB" and the preliminary rules are set out below for discussion.

I do realise that the definition of what constitutes an old kit could get quite intense so please can I please ask you to a keep the spirit of the GB very much in mind and b) think in terms of when the moulds were tooled rather than when the particular moulding you have to hand was produced. It's the date of the moulds being tooled that counts.

1.  Group Build runs from 00.01 Saturday 1st October 2016 to 24:00 Saturday 31st December (all times local).  If people would rather run Friday to a Sunday then please say so.

2)  An old kit is considered to be any kit where the moulds were originally tooled before 1st January 1985. Any boxing using those moulds is perfectly acceptable. Transfers (decals if you must) can be of any age you choose to use. In the case of kitbashes or the use of the aftermarket, 60% of the finished model must be from the original pre 1985 tools or toolings.

3)  You may build as many entries as you like (good luck!).  I'm afraid I can't work out how to include stories or profiles in an old kit GB so I think this GB will be purely for models. The posting of in-progress pictures is encouraged as always.  Back stories - however long or short - win extra points.  Well OK they don't but they're always nice to see.

4)  "Preparation" work is allowed prior to the start of the GB - this includes the cutting out and cleaning up of parts, even printing your own decals (!), but anything involving paint or glue is not allowed. 

5)  Part-started models will be considered by the moderators. You should explain what you have done or post pics (even better) and they will convene and pass judgment, their decision being final - we are relying on the honour of our membership to uphold this rule.

6)  No rule 6 - is there ever a rule 6 ?

7) Moderators - Crudebuteffective and Kitbasher ; thank you gentlemen

So your thoughts please gentlemen.

The final GB of the 2016/2017 season will be the Soviet GB which will be held in the early months of 2017 almost 100 years after the Revolution - spooky eh ? 

Chris

[Dizzyfugu]

Thank you very much, Chris, as well as Crudebuteffective and Kitbasher.

Time to dig through the dusty corners of the pile...

As a side note - if in doubt, scalemates.com is a good source to track down a kit/model's origins. Wonder who comes up with the most ancient mould model/whif/entry?

[Captain Canada]

I've got an oldie that was gifted to me by Rat way back in the day. Always looked for an excuse to build it 

[loupgarou]

Thank you very much, Chris, as well as Crudebuteffective and Kitbasher.

Time to dig through the dusty corners of the pile...

As a side note - if in doubt, scalemates.com is a good source to track down a kit/model's origins. Wonder who comes up with the most ancient mould model/whif/entry?

Don't tempt me! 
I have a LARGE choice of early kits.




Are wood kits from before the advent of plastics allowed? 

[sandiego89]

Chris, I think the rules are great- I like a hard calendar date of the 1st and 31st to start and stop as it is easy to remember, but as GMT can throw some off, perhaps the start/finish time should be from where you sit.  Those in Tonga and Guam can kick things off....

I didn't think 1985 was "old"  hmmm maybe that says something about me   (I was tooled in 1967)

-Dave

[ysi_maniac]

I was molded in 1960. Am I acceptable?

Joke aside. Can a model done basically with VEB Plasticart Boeing 707 and Frog/Novo/Eastern Express Britannia?

[PR19_Kit]

Hmmm, The Loft could produce a veritable cornucopia of applicable kits if I bothered to climb up there, but there's probably well over 30 that are down stairs here too! 

[kerick]

I have a couple oldies but goodies. Let me see what the muse comes up with.
Rules look OK to me.

[Captain Canada]

That will be half the fun of this GB, seeing peoples oldies collections !

[The Chaos]

Great I have many old Kits in My Stash. I think I have fun with it.

[zenrat]

Could stories and profiles be eligible if done using materials available prior to 1985?
i.e. written longhand, typed with a typewriter, drawn with a pencil etc.

I reckon about half of my stash is eligible but first off the blocks will be a Beaufighter Trimotor using the Airfix TF X which was tooled in 1958.

[Dizzyfugu]

Check my initial post for a good mould reference.

[Rheged]

Chris, I think the rules are great-
I didn't think 1985 was "old"  hmmm maybe that says something about me   (I was tooled in 1967)

-Dave

I agree that this is a sensible set of rules.

1985 isn't old!!;  1987 isn't old either.......  I'm a  1952 model.     

Remember that wise old saying   "   All men are cast in the same mould, but some are mouldier than others!"

[zenrat]

How do you find out the age of moulds of a kit? I would only own about 2 dozen kits total and I think I would build a Airfix Brewster Buffalo from those for the GB but is it old enough?

Its from 1972.
https://www.scalemates.com/kits/163358-airfix-137-buffalo

Go to scalemates.com and in the search box type the name and kit maker of the model you are interested in.  Change the drop down on the left of the search box to "Kits" and click search.
Pick the one you wanted from the list and you'll get a picture, some details and a timeline below that.  If you can't see all the timeline click on "View Full Timeline and History".
The full product timeline will have other manufacturers kits.

[Captain Canada]

That's pretty neat Fred thanks for the tip !