The Old Kit GB - Rules discussion

[Nick]

That looks very interesting Ratty 

Looks like the F-19 Stealth kits only came out in 1986 so they are off the list. Same for the SR-75 Penetrator. 

Nick the suggested rules specifically mention the date the original tools were produced not the kits. So given the time lag between tooling and kit production ? Ask the moderators (not me) via PM nicely and who knows ? 

Thanks for the thought Chris. I'm not too fussed to be honest as I have several old kits in the stash  and total modellers block. 

[Modelling_Mushi]

Wow, a GB where both my models and I qualify. 

OK, I've got a few weeks down time in October so I should be able to totally stuff up some plastic. Ive got 3 in mind:

1. The Hasegawa Lightning F6 that according to Scalemates dates back to FROG mouldings in 1968 (That fact scares the willies outta me, that old?). Trouble is I don't like the way the Lightning looks so its plastic surgery time 

2 & 3. The Airfix DVa that (from the same source) goes back to 1957 and the Airfix Camel that also goes back to 1957. Trouble here is that I hate biplanes and am developing an aversion to wheels.  Hmmm ....

Should be fun.

I hope

[zenrat]

I have to ask.
If you hate biplanes why do you have them in your stash?

[NARSES2]

I have to ask.
If you hate biplanes why do you have them in your stash?

They were cheap ? 

The old Airfix Re 8 still gives me nightmares  Mind you when using the tube glue at the time you could do the rigging simultaneously to fixing the struts 

[PR19_Kit]

1. The Hasegawa Lightning F6 that according to Scalemates dates back to FROG mouldings in 1968 (That fact scares the willies outta me, that old?). Trouble is I don't like the way the Lightning looks so its plastic surgery time 

Actually it was the other way round. FROG got a licence, and some moulds I guess, to make the Hasegawa F6 in the UK.

[Mossie]

I'm afraid I can't work out how to include stories or profiles in an old kit GB so I think this GB will be purely for models.

A suggestion Chris:  Any profile subjects should date before 1986, you can use modern liveries if you wish  "Kitbashed" profiles should be same as plastic, i.e. 60% should be of a subject dating before 1986.  Anything sci-fi should be of a style before then.  Alt histories should take place before then too.

[Modelling_Mushi]

I have to ask.
If you hate biplanes why do you have them in your stash?

Years ago when I got these 1/72 terrors I could see better, now with worse sight and less patience the rigging and strut work hasn't helped.

To make them into monoplanes? To have inanimate objects to vent some hate on? Acquired hatred after kit purchases? Gifts?

I keep them to fuel my sadomasochistic streak and to assuage my remnant protestant guilt complex. A monoplane looks like an option, yes, but maybe a variant monoplane.

They were cheap ? 

The old Airfix Re 8 still gives me nightmares  Mind you when using the tube glue at the time you could do the rigging simultaneously to fixing the struts 

Yeah, I think around the AUD 3 mark each at an old swap n' sell.

Truth be told, an Airfix Camel was my first kit. I was 5 and we lived in Canberra. I remember my dad taking me into Peter Pans Toy-store after I'd pestered him about it (I'd been to an older friends birthday party and he'd got a kit as a present) and he looked at the shelves. He said something like "The modern planes are more complex than the early ones, so the kits must be the same". Walked out with a bagged Airfix Camel and a tube of glue. He made the kit for me that afternoon. He also taught me how to swear (being ex Navy he was good at that), scowl and get glue fingerprints on mum's furniture the same day. He never built another one in his life. I've kept on for most of the last 45 odd years.

[zenrat]

Thanks Mushi.
My Dad built three for me before I took over.  All Airfix.  Lightning, Freedom Fighter and Battle.

As well as becoming monoplanes, biplanes are very well suited to becoming both autogiros and (at risk of giving away future plans) ornithopters.

I had a senior moment then.  I could not remember the word ornithopter (velociraptor kept coming to mind for some reason) and had to goggle "flapping wing aircraft".

Point of interest.  The Monogram B-36 and the Matchbox Privateer both date back to 1980.

And, i've just realised that I have no end of car kits that date from before the era of Scott & Charlene so I can knock something up from one of them.

[Leading Observer]

Thank you very much, Chris, as well as Crudebuteffective and Kitbasher.

Time to dig through the dusty corners of the pile...

As a side note - if in doubt, scalemates.com is a good source to track down a kit/model's origins. Wonder who comes up with the most ancient mould model/whif/entry?

Don't tempt me! 
I have a LARGE choice of early kits.




Are wood kits from before the advent of plastics allowed? 

Looking forward to seeing how you merge the Coastal Tanker with the C-47 and 109 

[loupgarou]

Looking forward to seeing how you merge the Coastal Tanker with the C-47 and 109 

You're giving me ideas! 

[TheChronicOne]

Here's an embarrassing question...  does it have to be "whif"or can it be OOB?  (I may not have read the rules properly, bear with me...  it's been a long day in the heat)

I have more before '85 toolings than post so I have plenty of stuff to choose from but not all of it destined for whiffery.   

[zenrat]

Here's an embarrassing question...  does it have to be "whif"or can it be OOB?  (I may not have read the rules properly, bear with me...  it's been a long day in the heat)

I have more before '85 toolings than post so I have plenty of stuff to choose from but not all of it destined for whiffery.   

There's a clue in the name of the forum...

[NARSES2]

Yup needs to be a wif. However can be as subtle as you like.

[TheChronicOne]

Thanks.  I'm a dip#^@& sometimes. I think my blood pressure bottomed out on me yesterday after hours out working in the heat with high humidity. Anyway, I have a good idea for a whif from the western hemisphere. I won't divulge any more than that.  

[PR19_Kit]

Here's an embarrassing question...  does it have to be "whif"or can it be OOB?  (I may not have read the rules properly, bear with me...  it's been a long day in the heat)

I have more before '85 toolings than post so I have plenty of stuff to choose from but not all of it destined for whiffery.   

There's a clue in the name of the forum...

That had me chuckling away for some time.