What do you want from Freightdog? suggestions needed....

[JasonW]

How about a VG TSR.2 conversion? I have the SAM TSR.2 book and there is a small sketch in there of a proposed VG layout for the TSR.2. Maybe a conversion in 1/72 for the Airfix kit?

[The Wooksta!]

Easier to just buy a cheap F14 (the wing and glove are bang on as F111 is too big and Tornado too small) and just do some simple butchery.  At least you're starting with plastic rather than resin.

[McColm]

The Boeing B-17S float plane conversion.
Sweden fitted 44 SAAB B-17's with floats, I can't find any info about usage as an liner or any other purchases for private flying. Only an R/C project.

[JayBee]

The SAAB B-17 was not the same aircraft as the Boeing B-17. It was a single engined design.
However the idea of a Boeing B-17 on floats certainly gets the imagination going.

[kitnut617]

SAAB B.17 on floats ---

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1322&bih=680&q=SAAB+B.17+on+floats&oq=SAAB+B.17+on+floats&gs_l=img.12...1331.9309.0.11675.19.11.0.8.0.0.216.1505.0j10j1.11.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.10.1392...0j0i8i30k1j0i8i10i30k1j0i10i30k1j0i30k1.UGKsZsZZKJU#spf=1

However, finding some appropriate sized floats for a Boeing B-17 might be a problem as I found out when I built my Avro Nottingham. The original idea was to put floats on a Lancaster but I couldn't find a set of floats in the right size range. The float set I did find were too big for a Lancaster so I ended up using a Shackleton because it was bigger -- and even then I made it bigger again.

http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16956.0;attach=28766;image

[Thorvic]

I may have already asked for this,  but a two seat P1154 RAF trainer version would be great  or a BAC P45 would be nice.
Alan

I would like to see the P1154 re-issued first, but the two seater and the RN versions would be rather tasty especially as the final RN proposed version was mostly the same as the RAF version but with the Tricycle undercarriage.

The P45 is quite tasty I did the single seater some years ago using a Mitsubishi T-2/F-1 kit as a basis, but the two seat VG trainer would be rather interesting with the likes of trainer colours, combat colours and maybe even Reds scheme 

[The Wooksta!]

You may wish to think about selling your mastering abilities to Colin!

[McColm]

SAAB B.17 on floats ---

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1322&bih=680&q=SAAB+B.17+on+floats&oq=SAAB+B.17+on+floats&gs_l=img.12...1331.9309.0.11675.19.11.0.8.0.0.216.1505.0j10j1.11.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.10.1392...0j0i8i30k1j0i8i10i30k1j0i10i30k1j0i30k1.UGKsZsZZKJU#spf=1

However, finding some appropriate sized floats for a Boeing B-17 might be a problem as I found out when I built my Avro Nottingham. The original idea was to put floats on a Lancaster but I couldn't find a set of floats in the right size range. The float set I did find were too big for a Lancaster so I ended up using a Shackleton because it was bigger -- and even then I made it bigger again.

http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16956.0;attach=28766;image

I came across the AirFrame 1/72 vacform Blohm und Voss HA 139. I'm going to use the engines from the kit on the Hasegawa H6K5 Mavis flying boat so I can alter these to turboprops but the float mounts look as if the B-17 has wheel spats. The floats look to me as they are the right size.

[kitnut617]

SAAB B.17 on floats ---

https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&site=imghp&tbm=isch&source=hp&biw=1322&bih=680&q=SAAB+B.17+on+floats&oq=SAAB+B.17+on+floats&gs_l=img.12...1331.9309.0.11675.19.11.0.8.0.0.216.1505.0j10j1.11.0....0...1ac.1.64.img..0.10.1392...0j0i8i30k1j0i8i10i30k1j0i10i30k1j0i30k1.UGKsZsZZKJU#spf=1

However, finding some appropriate sized floats for a Boeing B-17 might be a problem as I found out when I built my Avro Nottingham. The original idea was to put floats on a Lancaster but I couldn't find a set of floats in the right size range. The float set I did find were too big for a Lancaster so I ended up using a Shackleton because it was bigger -- and even then I made it bigger again.

http://www.whatifmodellers.com/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=16956.0;attach=28766;image

I came across the AirFrame 1/72 vacform Blohm und Voss HA 139. I'm going to use the engines from the kit on the Hasegawa H6K5 Mavis flying boat so I can alter these to turboprops but the float mounts look as if the B-17 has wheel spats. The floats look to me as they are the right size.

Like I said, finding some appropriate floats will be difficult. The empty weight of a B-17 is only 5700 lb less that the max takeoff weight of the HA 139

              empty          max
HA 139   22796 lb      41888 lb
B-17       36135 lb     54000 lb

[McColm]

Thanks for the info.

[Weaver]

Okay, here's a 1/144th scale idea that's based on a current kit and should be easy to do.

In Chris Gibson's Battle Flight there are details of a scheme to re-arm Tornado F.3s in the air by trailing a pallet of AMRAAMs out of the back of a transport type aircraft and having the fighter 'dock' with it using an extrending arm type system pluscontrol electronics/sensors, before the tow line was released and the fighter drew the pallet up to lie under it's belly.

The pallet was a simple rectangle with chamfered ends and four AMRAAMs in staggered pairs underneath it. There was a small ventral fin in between the aft missiles and a small bump on the top where the arm engaged it. It looks pretty simple and cheap to mould in resin and I'll bet Chris Gibson can point you at more details for it.

The proposed carrier aircraft was the MRSA transport/tanker/AEW being studied by BAe Woodford in the early 1980s. This came to nothing, but the studies were folding into the FLA which eventually became the A400M, so if this scheme had ever been put into practice, it would most likely have used the latter airframe. 1/144th scale A400M kits are in current production of course, and Dragon(?) make a set of two Tornado F.3s in 1/144th.

Another proposal was to trail the things from VC-10 bomb pods, which I believe somebody is making (?).

I don't see any details on the winch system , but since this was just a study is may not have been designed in detail, so you could either make it up based on similar systems or just leave it up to the modeller to make.

[PR19_Kit]

Why didn't they just fire the AMRAAMs directly from the carrier? It has about 20 miles range anyway.....

[McColm]

Airborne forest fire conversion sets for the Hasegawa Lockheed Neptune or Grumman Tracker.
Avro Lincoln panner for the transport version.

[The Wooksta!]

Is there an injection Lincoln?  No.  Expensive resin sets to convert the expensive Airfix kit and then you're adding yet another - likely expensive given the sheer size - resin set to an already heavy conversion project?  Don't be so bloody stupid!

Colin's after reasonably small and more importantly, decent sellers, not massive projects which won't sell except to one or two people.

[McColm]

It's the bulge under the fuselage similar in appearance to the Heritage Aviation Models Limited Halifax Halton resin conversion set. Which is no longer in production.
The only other set that I'm aware of is the Magna Halton. Not too sure if there's a vacform conversion set available.
I know that the Blackbird / FlightPath Avro Lincoln conversion sets are a bit pricey and that the Avro Lancastrian conversion set is available in different mediums as I have used them in the past but don't supply the lower fuselage luggage hold which is the part I'm after.