Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)

[scooter]

What IS a stud-finder anyway?

Some sort of sonar that tells you where the studs are behind the walls?

Precisely that.
https://www.bunnings.co.nz/our-range/tools/hand-tools/measuring-and-marking/stud-finders

Also Dad Joke fodder

[Rick Lowe]

And the Tool Time bit where it got used on Al springs to mind too...

[zenrat]

The horizontal timbers in a stud wall are called noggins in Victoria and in Sussex.  But IME terms used in construction can be very regional as Ricks post shows.

It's common current practice, when building a wall that might have a TV hung on it, to completely "nog out" the section where the telly might go.  I.e. to fill the entire space between two studs with noggins so there is a good solid foundation for the brackets.

[PR19_Kit]

I could glue a tele onto my walls. 

[Rick Lowe]

The horizontal timbers in a stud wall are called noggins in Victoria and in Sussex.  But IME terms used in construction can be very regional as Ricks post shows.

It's common current practice, when building a wall that might have a TV hung on it, to completely "nog out" the section where the telly might go.  I.e. to fill the entire space between two studs with noggins so there is a good solid foundation for the brackets.

Do they only do the one section, or a couple at a certain* distance apart?

Heaven help you if you decide to remodel and change which one the 'TV Wall' is... 

*Whichever is the largest tv available at the time of building, naturally...

[zenrat]

You only really need to nog out one section because the bracket for even the largest TV is not that wide.
If you are doing it properly you also have sockets for power and inputs put on the wall so you don't get the "cables hanging down the wall" look.
Which means that you can't move the TV without remodelling (although I suppose you could hang a picture over the socket).

[TheChronicOne]

That's the interesting part; TVs are now like another appliance in that homes are built with them in mind and with the idea that the positioning (at least in the main living room) is permanent. Just like little alcoves for stoves and refrigerators. Makes sense to me!! Especially considering the size of the things and them being flat..... hanging the TV on the wall is such a nice thing, really.....    no more eating up of floor space. No more needing to buy furniture just to hold a TV.


SPEAKING OF..... coincidentally, I saw a post on FB yesterday about how useless TV stands / "entertainment centers" are now and that they can easily be found for free or dirt cheap......... then converted into display areas for MODELS. lol     NOW, HOW'S THAT FOR TYING THINGS TOGETHER, YEAH? I should be a news show producer. Segue like a boss.

[Rick Lowe]

You only really need to nog out one section because the bracket for even the largest TV is not that wide.
If you are doing it properly you also have sockets for power and inputs put on the wall so you don't get the "cables hanging down the wall" look.
Which means that you can't move the TV without remodelling (although I suppose you could hang a picture over the socket).

Yeah, that makes sense.

That's the interesting part; TVs are now like another appliance in that homes are built with them in mind and with the idea that the positioning (at least in the main living room) is permanent. Just like little alcoves for stoves and refrigerators. Makes sense to me!! Especially considering the size of the things and them being flat..... hanging the TV on the wall is such a nice thing, really.....    no more eating up of floor space. No more needing to buy furniture just to hold a TV.

It also shows how 'indispensable' we think they are... he says, while using the big-screen tv as a computer monitor...
(all the better to see the wonderous creations on this esteemed site, of course...  )
Also interesting how things are becoming so interconnectable* these days.

*is that a word? Well, it is now...

    NOW, HOW'S THAT FOR TYING THINGS TOGETHER, YEAH? I should be a news show producer. Segue like a boss.

"Film at 11."

[TheChronicOne]

On that note, that's the plan for me this time around. I have this new gaming computer and it will be the first time I've ever hooked one to a TV!  It'll be interesting to see what things look like on the huge thing. I mean, I'll mainly do my interneting on THIS computer I'm on now, but from time to time it'll be necessary to look things up on the other and out of sheer curiousity I'm going to do things like look here and check facebook. Should be awesome seeing builds displayed so large.

Gotta get the damn thing on the wall, though! I pretty much stopped working on all this the other evening because I'm in lawn mowing mode again but that's going to wrap up here in a couple hours and I told myself that if I had enough energy and motivation left over that I'd go ahead and proceed with the wall mounting and get the thing going. Tomorrow is Sunday and I'd like to A: watch hand-egg on it (American football) and B: finally hook up this computer and start my journey back into PC gaming.

An interesting side note about hooking computers into televisions............    my daddy bought a Texas Instruments home computer way back in the early 80's (in fact, most of the dates on everything is from the 70's) but he had that thing hooked into an actual TV at one point, rather than using the green-scale monitor(dunno what the proper name is... but everything is two shades of green).  It was neat because the games and stuff actually supported it! I could play Parsec in color on a TV screen.... back in like.... 1985....     I still have all this stuff, too, mind you, and I'll hook it all up at some point. I stupidly threw the green scale monitor away after discovering it didn't work but I still have the little gizmo that allows one to attach the computer to a CRT television.... which I just happen to have....... 

[reddfoxx]

I had zero luck finding studs where I needed to mount our TV.  Lots of "research" holes drilled in the general areas, used both magnetic and electronic studfinders, etc.  So, the TV sits on the hearth.  It works fine, I guess.  Just frustrating.

[TheChronicOne]

Damn, ain't it though!!!   Stud finders and using them can create trust issues.     BEtter safe than sorry; nothing like ripping down a section of wall board and smashing a TV all at once.  I was planning on just setting mine on the TV stand this time around but found it impossible to do. Wall is only option other than sitting it on the floor.

[TheChronicOne]

Success! I'm far from done, but the troublesome part is over. I anchored the tv holder thing on the wall today then pulled, jerked, tugged, and wrenched on it to test it out. More force than it would ever have holding the TV.... it's is solid... man it is solid.... one of the more solid "things" in the entire house, in fact. That military wood!     So the TV is up and I'm now cleaning things again. Every time I finish a phase of this stuff I "regroup" by cleaning and organizing everything before heading into the next phase. I'm not at that point and it's time to set up the battery backup and start plugging in all the cords.



Caught one of very few remaining completed models left in this room. I have a few smalls on top of the computer desk here on the upper shelf but everything else was moved out. The Ultra Caravelle is all that is left. I had to have at least one "guard" here. 



Between this evening and tomorrow all the physical work will be done. I'll then probably have some time ahead to set up the computer itself after I turn it on by getting the browser set up, game clients set up, and all that crap but this is the end of this project so either tomorrow or the next day I'll be back to work on the MiG-8 while "stuff" downloads on the computer.

[TheChronicOne]

Dude, far out!! I'll copy what I posted on FB about it: So yesterday a tree trimming outfit hired by the city was out trimming tree limbs away from overhead utilities...   they piled up a bunch of these limbs in my yard. No biggy... I don't mind!  What I did, do, however, was take the opportunity to trim every last damn tree and branch I could get ahold of and drag all that poo-poo over to their piles for the mulch crew to dispose of. I about tripled or quadrupled the size of the piles. Nothing like free labor!!!  😁  Trimming trees ain't poo-poo... it's getting rid of the mess that is such a headache. #thuglife

So anyway, this knocked a dent in my schedule but I still plan to get back to work on the Duck this evening. Might not get much done, though. But man... the trees! This opportunity to have a ton of free labor doesn't come around often. I told myself... "Ok, if they haven't gotten the piles by time I get off work, I'll go ahead and trim trees" and by golly, I got it done! They'll be none the wiser because the trim crew and the wood chipper crew are different groups of people so they'll never know I quadrupled their piles. lmao

[Old Wombat]

And, as they probably on-sell the wood chips, they'll make a few more quid!

[NARSES2]

Good thinking mate 

You pay rates (or whatever the local taxes are called over there) to your local council so you were paying them indirectly anyway