Chronic's Research and Aeronautics Project (C.R.A.P.)

[Rick Lowe]

Sounds eminently logical to me, but then I'm not as versed in things Aeronautical as others here...

[PR19_Kit]

But uhhh..... when they stretched the 727, did they alter the wings and fin any?? Did they add fuselage plugs forward AND aft of the wings or just up front?

Plugs fore and aft, 10 ft extra, front and back. The fin was pretty much the same and AFAIK the only things changed on the wing was the size of the high and low speed ailerons.

JCF will know for sure. 

[TheChronicOne]

Nice....    So...  I think, that with the addition of two engines to the back, that I can get away with just putting a plug forward of the wings and just leave everything else as-is.  If I put both a plug AND two extra engines on the back I think it would be tail heavy.

My next question... I should definitely use a jig when I make my fuselage cuts, yes?

[Rick Lowe]

My next question... I should definitely use a jig when I make my fuselage cuts, yes?

Yes. And I would suggest building each side separately, getting them lined up properly, and then *and only then*, joining the fuselage halves.
Otherwise, you've got to both line up the fuselage bits in a straight line, and make sure they're not 'rotated'. (As Fred says, 'ask me how I know').

[TheChronicOne]

Wow...  ok.... THAT is something I never considered... glad you told me!!! I was definitely going to go the route of gluing them together first then sawing the whole things into pieces. Hell, it makes sense anyway because the half can sit flush in the jig and also when I go to glue....          Dodged a bullet there! Thanks!!  This is my first "elongation" so I'm not eager to mess it up with no kinky fuselage. 

[Rick Lowe]

Glad I could help... that's what it's all about, right? 


As has been said before:  "Perhaps your sole purpose in Life is merely to serve as a horrible warning?" 



There is a time and place for 'kinks' but not, I agree, in a fuselage... 

[TheChronicOne]

 


And...  on that first note... I have my own saying, "I try not to learn from my own mistakes, I try to learn from others'."    It's always nice to have someone to hop on the grenade for you!

[PR19_Kit]

I've tried it both ways, and I prefer to cut an already assembled fuselage into sections for lengthening, but it needs a mitre block to ensure the cuts are 90 deg.

If the cuts have to 'step' along the fuselage you can't do that of course and joining before assembling is the better method.

[zenrat]

If you build the halves first then you could stagger the cuts for extra strength.

[Rick Lowe]

If you build the halves first then you could stagger the cuts for extra strength.

True, that would work. Good thought.
Even have them in different parts entirely, not overlapping at all.

[TheChronicOne]

Fascinating. I'll be looking into this more in the following days and see what I can come up with.  Gotta get out of all these blasted lawns. I find that at the end of the day I'm too tired to get much work done.       Of course.. it could be worse! I shouldn't complain.


Any how... if anything, I'll try today to finally put the appliance white on the 737. It's ready, I just haven't done it.

My very thin tape arrived yesterday so I can finally start work masking my "A" logo on the gunship. I should be able to do this without it looking cheap and amaturish I hope. Never done anything like this before. I've done some pretty damn tedious and involved masking but never tried to make graphics. It has to be done right and measured right. I just hope I don't have to scrap the idea or redo it.

[NARSES2]

Of course.. it could be worse! I shouldn't complain.

As my mum always used to say "count yourself lucky, there's always cousin Worseoff", or she'd say "it's better then the alternative and at least you are still breathing". Cheery old so and so 

[TheChronicOne]

     Ah well, she's right at least.

I made it through yesterday but predictably was so tired that I got next to nothing done. I gloss coated the spinners on the Gunship and glued two little brace things onto the main gear and some thing that holds the light I guess to the nose gear. That's about it...  otherwise I just sat here for a few hours watching TV and being exhausted.

Work, though....boy.... wooooo... had two lawns yesterday after trash. The smallest lawn I have, and the largest lawn I have. One I charge $20 to do, the other I charge $120 to do. So it was an interesting day. Good thing is, I've made it out of that current cycle and am officially caught up and now will have one single day to mow my own lawn before the cycle starts again. I'm happy I finished off this latest round of mowing but I only have one day then I start again. It looks like I'm entering the time of year where I will be mowing every single work day. Once it gets too hot out, I can't work all day like I am now.

But anyway....   going to try to paint some more on the Gunship. I'm going to look into wing leading edges and things like that to see if I need to paint anything black or silver for de-icing or for faux de-icings. Yes, that's right, some companies paint fake stuff on their aircraft to make them look more expensive or more modern. This same principal is how the cheatline was born. Fascinating stuff...       But anyway...  I'll look into that and try to plot the walkways as well.

Going to try to make it to the store later and get some paint and primer, too, so I can get back to work on the Phantom which might be close to done by now had I not had the paint issue.

[TheChronicOne]

Got all that stuff done. Gunship is fully masked for the time being. I'll have to mask some things one last time near the very end to spray silver paint where the de-icers go but otherwise it's all done. Right now it looks like some nutty Rasta plane or something.



I painted some white onto the Phantom with my new bought rattle can white paint but I messed it up a little. Got some orange peel on it so I tried to spray one wing a little heavy and wound up with a run. Woops!    I always get so patient when I start spraying!     Anyway... no biggie... just need to sand a couple patches on it and put one last coat of paint on then I can start painting the tailplanes and rudder. Anti glare patch and nose cone, too, I suppose.

Else wise, I've decided to pick this up so I can make my ~SUPER CARAVELLE~.


Should work fine.

Lastly... thinking more long term.... I've been contemplating making a PSA L-1011.

 
Mother Grinning Bird.

This thing is neat....   It's strange, first, in that this is PSA we're talking about here.... an airline that never travelled outside of California. Secondly, they were the only airline to order the downstairs lounge option. Only three were made....    5 ordered I do believe but the last two cancelled because of the oil malarkey in 1973 or whatever it was. (Lockheed sued PSA over breach of contract and the two remaining aircraft were sold to someone else, sans the lounge option of course.. )   Anyway, it's all fascinating stuff and can be read up on here. It's a fun read!!!!!

http://g-alyp.blogspot.com/2012/04/psas-l-1011-experiment.html

Buuuuuuuut.... that leads me to the future project. A PSA L-1011, posed like the one above in the picture, with a separate display of a 1/144 scale lounge like this picture here:



That might be pretty neat. 

[PR19_Kit]

Lastly... thinking more long term.... I've been contemplating making a PSA L-1011.

 
Mother Grinning Bird.

This thing is neat....   It's strange, first, in that this is PSA we're talking about here.... an airline that never travelled outside of California. Secondly, they were the only airline to order the downstairs lounge option. Only three were made....    5 ordered I do believe but the last two cancelled because of the oil malarkey in 1973 or whatever it was. (Lockheed sued PSA over breach of contract and the two remaining aircraft were sold to someone else, sans the lounge option of course.. )   Anyway, it's all fascinating stuff and can be read up on here. It's a fun read!!!!!

http://g-alyp.blogspot.com/2012/04/psas-l-1011-experiment.html

Buuuuuuuut.... that leads me to the future project. A PSA L-1011, posed like the one above in the picture, with a separate display of a 1/144 scale lounge like this picture here:



That might be pretty neat. 

LOVE that idea! 

If you can find one of the Revell L-1011s with the interior, that has the underfloor galley compartment moulded in IIRC, which might help in modelling the downstairs lounge.