Storing Future in Alternate Containers

TheChronicOne · September 24, 2016, 03:41:33 PM

OK, I dumped a bunch of floor polish into a jar that formerly contained pickles.

It's great because the opening is large and it's deep enough to dunk whole fuselages into on a lot of my 1/72 stuff. Nice wide brim, etc:

Here's my problem. When I put the lid back on and seal it.... you probably guessed... it glues itself shut and it take a significant amount of torque to screw it back off. So much so that I'm worried about hurting my wrists which have had numerous problems over the years. Also, when the the lid finally DOES give way it's pretty violent and here comes floor polish splashing all over the damn place.

Any suggestions for keeping the lid from gluing shut? Would like.. a wax paper sheet or something in between help?

The jar is glass and the lid the typical metal lids with the coating on the inside.

I like me jar and would like to continue using it. Would all plastic work better? The bottle the stuff comes in is all plastic but the screw on portion of the cap kinda glues itself, too. It's not a problem because the lid is much smaller, easier to grip, and easier to put more force on to.

Thanks,
Brad

Steel Penguin · September 25, 2016, 01:38:07 AM

wax paper would probably help, also before you put the lid on, ensure that the lid and the glass threads are clean and dry, and then try not to slosh them when you move the jar.
to help when undoing wrap a couple of elastic bands round the lid and jar body, it doesn't reduce the amount of force, but enables an easier grip, you could also look in your local shops and see if any of them have "a device to help undoing lids " usually its marketed at the older community, and has an adjustable metal collar that you can loosen / tighten and a nice long handle to grip, enabling more efficient use of force.

one other thing I wold add, put a label on either the jar or lid, saying what's in it, if for any reason it gets spilled / smashed/ drunk and its not you who responds, its easy to work out what's happened, and appropriate responses can be taken.

zenrat · September 25, 2016, 03:03:07 AM

Grease the threads with vaseline?

TheChronicOne · September 25, 2016, 11:20:21 AM

Thanks, y'all! I will use all these suggestions and my wrist thanks ye.

Just sitting here re-reading what I wrote made it start hurting. lol

Mossie · September 25, 2016, 01:19:01 PM

Teflon tape wrapped around the thread? The the kind you get for sealing threads for plumbing. It's cheap from DIY/Hardware stores and stuff shouldn't stick to it easily.

TheChronicOne · September 25, 2016, 01:27:10 PM

Hey not bad!! I have some of that around, too... Thanks!

PR19_Kit · September 25, 2016, 02:27:28 PM

Just a bit of thin polythene might do it.

Cut a square of it out of a supermarket bag, lay over the top of the jar and screw the lid back on.

TheChronicOne · September 25, 2016, 03:02:31 PM

I have tons of those bags... great idea, thanks!

strobez · February 01, 2017, 04:14:24 PM

I use a cheap square-shaped glass food container that comes with "snap down" plastic lid. Never gets stuck and since it's wide and shallow, it's perfect for dunking. I saw some similar ones on Amazon under "starfrit lock and lock". I find them very useful.

TheChronicOne · February 01, 2017, 05:12:25 PM

Awesome! Good looking out.

This is pretty funny because I picked up that jar last night for the first time in a couple months... I even left the lid barely screwed on and tilted at an angle and it's still welded shut. I really "wrenched" on it and it wouldn't budge; I sat it back down and left it alone.

I haven't used any after I came to the conclusion that it wasn't working so well. I think I had a epihany yesterday, however... it works really well on acrylis, but not enamels? Like it "soaks in" to the acrylic paints I had put on my model but the shiny enamel stuff it seems to just roll of off.

Still figuring things out as I go . . . .

zenrat · February 02, 2017, 12:55:14 AM

Turn the jar upside down and run some GP thinners into the threads from a paintbrush.
Turn it back up the right way before trying to loosen the lid.

Old Wombat · February 02, 2017, 02:02:43 AM

Quote from: TheChronicOne on February 01, 2017, 05:12:25 PM
I haven't used any after I came to the conclusion that it wasn't working so well. I think I had a epihany yesterday, however... it works really well on acrylis, but not enamels? Like it "soaks in" to the acrylic paints I had put on my model but the shiny enamel stuff it seems to just roll of off.

Still figuring things out as I go . . . .

As Future is a water-soluble, ammonia-based sealant (with about 4%vv styrene) it won't cover enamels very well unless they are very well cured & cleaned with detergent to remove oils from the enamel paint.

zenrat · February 02, 2017, 02:21:06 AM

Future over acrylic paint results in a crackle finish which is either attractive or a PitA depending on what you painted with the acrylic.

I used to clear car builds with Future (I don't anymore as it dulls over time) and I am racking my few remaining brain cell trying to remember if any of them were painted with enamel rather than automotive rattle cans.
And the answer is I have no idea.
Sorry.

PR19_Kit · February 02, 2017, 03:06:33 AM

Quote from: zenrat on February 02, 2017, 12:55:14 AM

Turn it back up the right way before trying to loosen the lid.

Rheged · February 02, 2017, 04:16:05 AM

Quote from: Steel Penguin on September 25, 2016, 01:38:07 AM
look in your local shops and see if any of them have "a device to help undoing lids " usually its marketed at the older community, and has an adjustable metal collar that you can loosen / tighten and a nice long handle to grip, enabling more efficient use of force.

These devices are a good piece of kit! My mum has one (at 91, she's entitled to help unscrewing jars) but hers was bought in an auto-accessory shop.......it was supposed to be used for unscrewing recalcitrant oil filters. She's had it for probably 35 years and it's still unscrewing pickle jars .